@UHDHDRwrote:
@BAMozzywrote:I understand what @Saverio571 was trying to say about HLG and its comparison to the Pseudo HDR+ mode. The principal is very similar in but the application is different. Neither offer the wider colour gamut (or so it appears with HLG) so the colours are more muted when compared to HDR10. Its more 'consistent' than HDR+ which can work very well in some scenes but seem off in others. This also gives HLG a more natural looking HDR than HDR+.
The HLG demo's look great and 'consistent' throughout. However when you look at the HDR10 versions, the colours look richer, more vibrant. Reds and Greens are the most noticeable. With the Wider Colour Gamut, that doesn't mean that 'all' colours in scene are outside of the REC709 (SDR) range as the REC709 gamut fits inside the DCI-P3 gamut.
As the illustration above shows, REC709 fits inside the DCI-P3 gamut and so the majority of colours are the same regardless. The Wider Colour Gamut though can have more Reds and Greens in particular than REC709 which is why these can be more vibrant, more rich. The 'Arc' shape represents the full range of colours the 'average' human can see but the triangles represent the different colour range of content. REC709 being the SDR range and it seems the range of HLG too - understandably as it is supposed to work for all TV's - not just those with DCI-P3 or REC2020 colour gamuts.
That's not true. HLG does offer wide color gamut. HDR10 looks better because when you are grading for HLG, you are creating an image that is supposed to look good on an SDR rec709 TV, and also provide an acceptable HDR image on an HDR display. The problem with that is in post production, you have to apply a separate correction to the mid tones and to the highlights, because the gamma is very different between the two. So grading is trickier for HLG, whereas for HDR10, you worry mostly about optimizing the image for an HDR display.
Exactly, most important thing is cerators intent, I watched two sony clips and can see all minute detaiils in the HLG version - this is footage taken inside salty water with all kind of depbris floating and blocking and dimming the light - do not expect colours to show artifical POP, HDR+ shows more vibrant colurs for SDR but that does not mean HDR+ is better
@Saverio571wrote:It is right that the thing is resolved. But, to be honest, HLG is not very performing. It is not an HDR10. In a Samsung TV with HDR + activated, the image is hard to recognize it compared to an HLG. Just do the test with the usual jazz file in HLG and not in HLG. the difference in practice is not noticed if you take the non-HLG file and set the HDR +
Again a bit confused, are you saying here that the sky on italian tv is resoved for the KS? Because your last post seems slightly different,
