Lack of APTx Adaptive Support on S24 Ultra

[SzymonSebMalecki]

Can someone explain to me why Snapdragon Powered S24 Ultra with Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 CPU still doesn't support APTx Adaptive? Every single time my phone receives a new update, I keep checking if I can finally see it (I owned Bose QuietComfort Ultras for a couple of months they just received 1.6.7 update today no change whatsoever). The best I can do on my brand new flagship phone is AAC!! Why?? One of primary reasons why I upgraded from S22 Ultra with Exynos 2200 series for the latest Snapdragon CPU, hoping that I can finally use my BT5.3 QuietComfort Ultras without having to use my Creative BT-5 APTX-Adaptive dongle which seems to be the only way for me. I can't see a single reason why there is no support added for Snapdragon Variants if it's a software thing. Do you really want people rooting their few weeks old phones for this or trying to install it from dodgy websites? You can really fix it with a single update or Beta Labs functionality for people eager to try it Samsung!! I had the phone since day one, and it was by far the biggest dissapppointments of starting to use my new Ultra phone this year. This is a link to Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 SOC Product Specification: https://www.qualcomm.com/products/mobile/snapdragon/smartphones/snapdragon-8-series-mobile-platforms... can someone from Samsung Software team explain it to us customers? It's a listed Codec in Snapdragon product brief. I kept leaving messages on Your Facebook ADs in the UK multiple times asking. I even tried asking that at the Samsung Experience Store whilst awaiting the delivery of my brand new phone, and your employees clearly keep it a secret. I think that more Tech youtubers should start discussing this and spread the awareness.

[Ellie041219]

Samsung has never supported Apt X ever. This goes before SSC. They only support apt X and LDAC because it's baked into Android ever since Android 8.0. Until Google bakes in Apt X adaptive into Android we will never see it on a Samsung device. That or the EU or the United States government forces it (doubtful tbh on the legal front). 

[Hellknight]

BTW AptX HD is already an open source codec in Abdroid...

[jerry07]

Samsung team, it was really disappointing after  buy ing your flagship device , and getting to know that it doesn't have support for higher quality codecs from aptX. I moved from a Oneplus 10 Pro to S24 Ultra and i really feel that the audio quality through my momemtum tws 4 which supports the highest quality codecs currently available in the market, has gone done. How on earth you cannot add support for aptX HD and adaptive codec support on your phone. In fact much much more than the AI features you provide, audio is the one of the most used feature on phones, used every day , every moment. Can you please get your act together and add aptX HD , adaptive, Lossless etc codec support for S24 Ultra. I mean really, S24 Ultra is your flagship, it should support the highest quality audio codecs which are available in market. And not only supporting proprietary LDAC and SSC (which highly limits the number of options in headphones)

[Balling]

AptX HD is not lossless. Only 1200 kbit/s AptX Adaptive r2.2 is lossless (well, I mean, it is still not like ALAC used on Apple, but...).

[Members_IXITNeq]

I am on the S22 Ultra and been waiting to see what samsung will do with apt x lossless before i commit to my next phone. Seems Samsung is actively deciding not to support this codec due to wanting to push its own agenda. Thus this is where my 15yr loyalty with samsung ends. My next phone will be the Sony I VI as they support all the latest codecs. I get that many people dont factor codecs into their decision making, but its so frustrating how samsung go out of their way to prevent a codec that is native to all the latest snapdragon chips - its just totally bone headed and I have had enough of samungs contempt of its customers

[MarkKow]

I am on Samsung S24 Ultra and I am really annoyed to be forced to use dongles like BT-W6 to use my Focal Bathys wirelessly. 

I think Samsung is shooting their own foot with the decision to be the second (after Apple) producent of phones with closed ecosystem instead of being the best producent of phones with open ecosystem. 

I really hope they see the error of such approach. I had S7 Edge, S8+, S9+, S10+, now on S24U. I am a fan of top tier phones. I will NOT buy another Samsung phone if Samsung intentionally blocks open source BT codecs on that phone to promote their ecosystem. Their ecosystem is just not good enough (and from what I can see it will never be). Luckily, I am pretty sure I will find a phone that makes good photos AND supports all aptX codecs in a year or two when I'm shopping for the next phone.

[Ellie041219]

It really isn't. Google baked in LDAC and Apt X into Android. That's why you see it. Google Pixel also doesn't support adaptive or lossless. Apt X is a proprietary codec made by Qualcomm .

Edit: HD is apparently but lossless and Adaptive still isn't. 

[Ellie041219]

• Apt X lossless and adaptive isn't open source . It's a Qualcomm proprietary codec. 

[Ellie041219]

They don't prevent it they just don't want to pay the license fee to support it. The same reason why they don't support Dolby Vision. Lossless and Adaptive is still not open sourced 

[MarkKow]

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@Ellie041219 wrote:

They don't prevent it they just don't want to pay the license fee to support it. The same reason why they don't support Dolby Vision. Lossless and Adaptive is still not open sourced 

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I think there was no licence fee for aptX HD and losless to be supported by Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 (i.e. those codecs could be available on S24U/S25U for free). I've read comments from Qualcomm that there was no fee and it was Samsung's decision to disable support for those codecs. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed aptX HD is baked into next Android version.