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2020 QLED T models (Q80T, Q90T, Q800T, Q900T) HDR game mode brightness / local dimming bug

(Topic created on: 10-05-2020 11:59 PM)
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Rauttis
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I bought a Q80T a couple of days ago and have noticed a really annoying issue when using the tv with the combination of HDR and game mode.

 

I'm fairly certain this is a software bug in the TV since I can reproduce this issue with 100% accuracy, and it happens on the dot at the same moment every time. It's basically on a timer.

 

Basically when the game is displaying a HDR signal and game mode is enabled, exactly after 6 minutes the brightness of the TV suddenly drops by around 20 (50 -> 30). The value of brightness setting doesn't actually change however. Messing with the brightness setting does not restore the brightness to it's original state, but changing the local dimming setting from standard to low and then back to standard does. Switching game mode off and then back on also fixes the issue, but then it happens again EXACTLY after 6 minutes (I've timed this with a stopwatch).

 

Has anyone else experienced this issue? Or can someone maybe test this on their TV to see if you can reproduce it?

 

Exact repro steps on how I can reproduce this 100% of the time on the PS4 Pro:

  1. Set brightness to max (50)
  2. Set local dimming to standard (bug happens on high as well)
  3. Enable game mode
  4. Turn off game motion plus
  5. Turn off intelligent mode and all the brightness related settings in eco settings, as these can influence the brightness level of the tv.
  6. Launch a game that runs in HDR
  7. Start your stopwatch
  8. Do whatever you want in the game or you can also go back to PS4 menus, find a bright scene where you can notice a brightness drop easily
  9. When the stopwatch hits 6 minutes, you should see the TVs brightness suddenly drop by a large amount. By eye the brightness drop seems about equal to dropping the brightness from 50 -> 30 by hand.
  10. Go to picture settings and set local dimming to low (brightness does not change)
  11. Set local dimming back to standard (brightness suddenly jumps to the original level. Brightness can be restored by switching input away and back as well, or by disabling and re-enabling game mode)
  12. And again after EXACTLY 6 minutes the bug again repeats and the brightness drops down again

Some other notes: The PS4 has a screensaver that basically dims the screen if it is idle for a while. This is not the cause of this, this happens even when the console is in active use and the brightness can be restored temporarily by changing the local dimming setting like described above. I have not managed to reproduce this issue with game mode off, so it seems to be related to game mode.

 

Software version: 1304

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DUSKTILLDAWN
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Don't listen to this troll Supriya,vrr has faint scrolling horizontal lines and dark like horrible dark ,and GMP disabled the same faint lines but not dark,this messes up hgig aswell as local dimming and as I have 1402.6,others have 1402.7 and site says 1402.1 I'm not surprised there's issues.

 

 

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DUSKTILLDAWN
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No PS4 aswell

 

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TomasTSH
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No PS4 what?

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DUSKTILLDAWN
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I was replying to someone else about the horizontal lines and dark vrr on PS4 and Xbox ,not just Xbox

 

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TomasTSH
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That`s true, I have PS4 Pro and I too get scrolling horizontal lines with GMP off. Really interested to see how everything works with PS5 or Xbox Series X with 120hz VRR Input.

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daparky
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I'm definitely holding off until they've been tested.

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Muzzakus
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Can confirm horizontal lines scrolling from bottom to top on low light scenes.  Looks like an old fashioned signal issue on analog displays, which obviously cannot be the case.    Wonder if it will ever be fixed, or what else will be broken in the process.   

it’s incredible, how long has Samsung been building tv’ for?

QuantumP
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I'm running firmware 1402.6 and use Xbox One X with vrr. I can't see scrolling lines but on certain parts of the game, I can see faint pulsing. Is this the issue? Like it is running something in the picture background to keep the frame rate smooth. 

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Suriya
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That @AV2020 is trolling everyone on this thread lol... for past few days i didn't reply or post anything here. He's replying to everyone with my fake profile lol... 🙂

Seriously i have no idea... AV2020 the real troll ever

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SidL
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I'm getting a hate from samsung! Launching an update apparently fixes one thing and makes it worse and simply ignores fixing another (such as the case of local dimming) 😡😡