Hi, just bought a Used WW80J5555FW eco-bubble washing machine and noticed that when the drum is rotating clockwise the carbon brush noise is more of a 'shrill' than when the drum is rotating anti-clockwise. - could this be normal or an indication that one of the carbon brushes is sticking or not bedded in properly? could it cause further problems?
also on eco drum clean is there any way of manually setting the temperature more than 60'c ? on most machines the drum clean programme would be something like 90'c to kill the germs and bacteria.
cheers , no the Series 5+ working absolutely fine . Just saw this used one in the paper and took a chance on it as a backup machine or to sell on
Thanks, interesting that . i do see that the drum (even though a 8kg) on the WW80J5555FW is identical in design (diamond drum surface) to my 9kg WW90T534DAW. - same machine front (but the WW90T534 uses different door lock and a button switch above it) . - Same Diameter porthole. a slightly different door gasket design on the WW80J to the WW90T.
It felt very alien putting in soap detergent and fabric softener in the WW80J today having the autodose WW90T machine for over a year now and confirmed that after having an Autodose system on a washing machine I dont think I would ever want to go back to a manual dosing washing machine ever again..... also would never want to go back to using a non inverter washing machine with carbon brushes in them , they are so so noisy amongst anything else .... especially when spinning!
also would not want to go back to the older door locks where you had to wait ages after a spin for the door to be able to be opened!
Plusses: open door as soon as cycle has finished, open immediately after pressing pause if you wanted to add something else to drum if not long into wash and water level in drum is below door gasket.
Minuses - the big (bang/click click) sound the doorlock makes!
Plusses: it operates in a quiet way
Minuses - it takes ages to open up door after after a cycle, even if you pause the machine the door still stays locked even if the water was not above door gasket level.
I've a feeling then that the doorlock on the WW80J5555FW is one of thermal type principle that washing machines years ago used to work on?
Those things aside (manual dosing, brush type motor, ages to unlock door, drum clean at only 70c and it not being wifi enabled) the WW80J5555FW is cracking machine by samsung all the same - i much prefer the large LED display with the large time remaining 8 segment digits personally over the the display of the WW90T534DAW - also like the dial as well better on the WW80J5555FW with the lights around it - very snazzy and better looking than the silver dial on the WW90T534DAW (the black dial matching the black door accent) and think to myself that the black porthole door on the WW80J5555FW looks more premium than the black door they have used on the WW90T534
The WW80J5555FW they have put a metal underside to the bottom of the machine whereas the later WW90T534DAW they have gone with the (presumably cheaper?) corrugated PVC.
Inside the machine of the WW80J5555FW they have put grease where the top drum outer plastic tub springs attach too and grease is omitted from my later WW90T534DAW (presumably over time the grease stops the springs cutting into plastic outer drum lugs?)
The next thing I want to check one day soon when I have enough time is to see if there are identical lower shock absorbers on the bottom of the drum tub on the WW80J5555FW and WW90T534DAW or have they (the WW90T534DAW being a later model) used a different (cheaper?) design shock absorbers on the later model.
There are 2 cold water inlet solenoid valves on the WW80J5555FW whereas only 1 solenoid on the WW90T534DAW (mind you I would expect that as 1 of the solenoids on the WW80J5555FW is for the detergent component, and the other one is for the fabric softener compartment) whereas the ww90T534 only needs 1 solenoid for the autodose system of the WW90T534DAW because the drawer housing has 2 pumps (one for soap and the other for the fabric softener)
Its fascinating seeing the changes between the 2 models .... but in some ways , a load of similar components used on both.
excellant answers, thanks.
Ah yes that WW9000 machine was a beauty in my eyes , that had the tablet like screen on the front of the machine where you swiped to select your wash cycle on the colour touchscreen. i would love one of them - the price was out of this world too. i think I saw it in currys store for something like 2grand or something like that ... and that wash not even a washer dryer it was just a washing machine i think - and for that price you still had to put the washing in and out of it manually LOL 😁
Thats got me thinking of the shock absorbers now, would sturdier ones albeit noisier/more vibration be better built/stronger/last longer/ give better suspension if they have made the ones in the later machines softer ... hmmmm
even inverter motors vary in noise. a previous machine I had was a Hotpoint with inverter motor and it was quieter in operation (on spin and ramping up and down to spin) than the inverter motor on my Samsung WW90T534
Bot machines with brushless motors but the Hotpoint one quieter than the Samsung one... maybe its down to quality of motor itself or maybe the motor PCB board has components on it to make the motor torque differently (and consequently affect the noise it makes?)
I do feel on the Hotpoint the motor sped up and slowed down (quietly) but when stopped spinning took longer to slow the drum down , whereas on the Samsung WW90T534DAW on observation when the drum is speeding up and slowing down there seems to be some kind of 'braking' going on... and as there is not a physical brake the electronics must be doing it (adjusting torque or something) so the drum slows down faster on the Samsung but you also get a 'whoosh' noise like the brushless motors (OK nowhere near as loud as a brush type motor) but its still there I can hear it. - if thats what they have done (by electronics/motor controller board) then they have taken a perfectly quiet inverter/brushless motor and injected a by-product of making it noisier by the way they are controlling the motor - shame that.
an on the subject of carbon brush type motors and how noisy they are (especially on spin) I had a BEKO washing machine once that had a brush type motor and in the blurb it said something like the wash motor on the machine was something like 30% quieter than other brush type motors on the market ... and indeed it seemed to be. It had brushes , but wasnt too bad even when spinning it was an improvement on other machines with brush type motors.
I dont know how they achieved it ... maybe softer type carbon brushes? or a better designed brass commutator maybe? - I dont know, but it was pretty quiet as far as brush type wash motors went.