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Is your 5G Connection REALLY 4G?

(Topic created on: 05-03-2025 07:00 PM)
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Piper123
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So your smartphone (any manufacturer) shows the 5g icon and you're getting a decent data speed.

But are you REALLY getting 4g? SignalTracker doesn't think so with potentially 40% of connections that claim to be 5g actually using a 4g connection. 

www.ispreview.co.uk is one of the most informative websites I've come across for all things mobile and broadband. 



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Glenntech
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I just know that 4G is quite often far faster than the 5G
Haven't really come a long way and doesn't surprise me if they are actually using part of 4G

I can attest to the mediocre 5G from O2
Three UK is definitely good
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An interesting view here @Glenntech

I've known for some time that O2 is a weak network but Three? That's a very different concept.

MVNOs like IDMobile are growing fast and yet the general view online seems to suggest Three is a weak network.....

Fact is, unless using 5G Standalone then the backhaul is 4g anyway. And networks want to charge extra for 5G Standalone as they roll it out.
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Right you are @Piper123. There are a lot of areas that may display 5G on your handset but actually is really just a rebadged 4.5G or 4G+...or any other acronym that network will call it.

True 5G speeds should be many orders of magnitude faster than an equivalent 4G.

If a speedtest shows less than 100Mbps then the likelihood it is not as it seems.

City centres and 'true 5G' would show speeds of 300-500 Mbps.

Operators are rolling out to many more areas though... so coverage is vastly improving.

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Three is actually great for 5G in many areas. I do baseline 300+ in quite a lot of my local area...

Also three have had a recent merger with Vodafone, so both will likely benefit from a collaboration in the network.


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I've got the Three network, the other day I did a speed test whilst out, as it showed a 5g connection, test showed 731mpbs....and actually used over 1gb of my data allowance to test it!!
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Your phone actually tells you all this information, its not hidden. If the 5g icon on samsung is solid white, it means its using 5g data communication, if the icon is white letters with a black inside, you're using 4g as your 5g signal is bad or slower.

To add to this, most 5g towers are "new radio non standalone". Meaning 5g non standalone. Meaning its using the communication and control systems of 4g, but sending data using 5g. This gives 5g speeds but not the enhanced security or optimisation that the full 5g protocol offers. This is mostly because NR NSA is kinda just bolting 5g speeds to a 4g tower so its way easier.

Some towers in the uk are getting NR SA or standalone. This is the full 5g protocol and data rate, though your phone will still swap to 4g if 5g signal isn't good enough to offer fast speeds. (As I explained by the icon described earlier).

5g also has multiple modes regardless if its in standalone or non standalone mode. The main ones in the uk being low and high frequency. Main point is high frequency is fast but has bad range, low frequency is decent with long range. There are other modes like 5g advanced which I believe is the same as carrier aggregation (multiple cell towers sending you data so faster speeds) and mmwave which is only on american model phones and honestly isn't useful in real life

Tldr, cell providers never trick you with fake 5g thats actually 4g, your phone dynamically adjusts how it connects to maintain optimal speed. 5g in the uk mostly uses 4g for control and connections but 5g for sending the actual data.

In America, there was a time where iphones got an update where they'd say 4g was actually 5g. But in terms of right now and the uk, your phone doesn't lie as long as you know the 5g icon has a solid and hollow version

Everything I explained can be seen in an android debug menu

Also don't mind the cheeky satalite test mode at the bottom. Extra proof the s25 has satalite hardwareScreenshot_20250305_195259_Phone services_1000016604_1741204481.png
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Very informed response. Thankyou for those details. 👍


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Totally agree. A high level detailed analysis of what, how and why.

Thank you @arianwen27
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