14-11-2023 12:12 PM
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14-11-2023 03:20 PM
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15-11-2023 06:15 PM - last edited 15-11-2023 06:16 PM
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I have had to uninstall (restore to factory default version) several Samsung pre-installed apps, disable auto-update on them then disable the apps themselves but many unwanted pre-installed Samsung apps, even obsolete desupported ones, cannot be uninstalled. I have to do this for all of mine and my family's devices and any new devices that we acquire which is very frustrating for apps that shouldn't be factory installed in ROM in the first place.
I think that it is most unprofessional and biased of Samsung to assume that all of its smartphone and tablet customers are primarily interested in games, including their business customers, when I would imagine that this is far from being the case.
Félim Doyle
15-11-2023 06:29 PM
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15-11-2023 08:46 PM - last edited 15-11-2023 08:52 PM
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a) The Apps tab should be the default for all users, the gamers should have to choose Games.
b) It should at least be configurable in Settings and the default should still be Apps.
c) I find the game screen annoying to see every time I go in to update my regular apps. The game icons are childish to be appearing on my personal and professional devices.
Up until recently, there was a gaming promotion pop-up that had to be cancelled before you could proceed to the Apps tab. It had a "don't show this again" or, more recently, a "don't show this again today" option but I continued to get the promotional pop-ups every time I started Galaxy Store although perhaps for a different game each time. This was disruptive to my quite normal use of Galaxy Store and, I imagine, has now been removed following complaints from regular users like myself.
I realise that this is all about marketing but, as I said in a previous post, it's very unprofessional of Samsung to bias such an essential utility app to a niche set of customers.
15-11-2023 08:53 PM - last edited 15-11-2023 08:53 PM
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16-11-2023 09:55 AM - last edited 16-11-2023 10:29 AM
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Another thing, which I'll raise separately, is how huge the Samsung apps are in comparison to their Google equivalents even though they typically have less functionality. Comparing apps such as Samsung Mail with Google Mail and Samsung Wallet with Google Wallet, the size difference is phenomenal. Given the difference in functionality between these apps, I have to wonder what the code taking up all of that space is doing or what development tools Samsung are using to create such bloatware.
16-11-2023 10:14 AM - last edited 16-11-2023 10:28 AM
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I just don't follow this anti Samsung in a Samsung product. Google didn't collaborate with other companies just so they could enforce them all to use whatever they provide ONLY. I mean Microsoft have been criticised for an age due to anti competitive practices in software, but it seems some people prefer the monopoly?
16-11-2023 11:55 AM
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In Google Play Store my app sizes are as follows ...
Samsung:-
Email 672MB
Wallet 449MB
Internet 343MB
Upday 710MB
Google:-
GMail 380MB
Wallet 37MB
Chrome 594MB
News 118MB
You can't make a direct comparison between Samsung Internet and Google Chrome as Chrome has far more functionality than Internet but Firefox is 326MB for reference.
Similarly, Samsung Email is a less fully-featured app than GMail but is almost twice the size.
Again, Samsung Wallet has similar but still less functionality than Google Wallet and is less widely supported by card companies but is almost seventeen times the size.
Samsung's Upday offering is a news aggregator and so I would imagine is really just a front-end for websites and should have very little built-in functionality but is six times the size of Google News. The BBC News app is 181MB for reference.
Perhaps I am using the wrong measuring technique so I'm open to correction but it looks to me that Samsung apps are excessively large for the functionality provided and are sub-standard duplicates of the Google or other third-party equivalents.
Your comment of "anti Samsung in a Samsung producr" also raises the question as to why the device manufacturers and the network operators feel the need to have their own branded versions of apps and system software pre-installed in ROM when Google provides a perfectly good or better version.
I agree with you about Microsoft and anti-competitive practices but it that case the Microsoft product is invariably much bigger with less functionality than the alternatives so much so that, in order to try to compete in the browser wars, Microsoft had to capitulate and rebuild the Edge browser with the Chromium engine.
Félim Doyle
16-11-2023 12:06 PM - last edited 16-11-2023 02:20 PM
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Besides all that, I could have 10k Samsung Wallets installed and still have 95% of my storage free. It's not a big deal. Most of these alleged bloatware apps aren't, at the very least in terms of storage. Only people who love to use so much hyperbole over the smallest of inconveniences.
