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Need Samsung Q210 bios update for Execute Disable Bit (NX/XD) setting is not working now

(Topic created on: 30-05-2020 05:44 PM)
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DaveM3
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Hi,

I have a Samsung Q210 laptop with Intel P7350 processor which should support the Execute Disable Bit feature. I am running Windows 10 32 bit but I want to upgrade to Windows 10 64 bit which is free. Therefore I need to know beforehand if this flag can be enabled. The Phoenix bios version is the latest 11LE. When I enable this setting in the bios the nx flag doesn't show up in the flags. All flags when EDB disabled are exactly the same as when enabled.

The flags are:

grep 'flags' /proc/cpuinfo | uniq
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2

ss ht tm pbe pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 lahf_lm dtherm

 

Apart from the flag nx I expected also to see flag lm (maybe it is equivalent to lahf_lm that I do see) and vmx for this processor. I know that because someone has these flags for the same processor but on an Apple computer.

https://community.openhab.org/t/unable-to-launch-web-ui/41881

 

Somehow the Phoenix 11LE bios does not support it although the setting is in the bios and the processor supports it.

 

I have searched on the Phoenix website but their website is not safe and the bios updater executable was marked as malware and put in quarantaine.

 

Samsung, how can I get a bios update or get the EDB f?

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Thanks for the reply but after doing some more research with tools like CPU-Z, HWINFO, Speccy (Coreinfo gave an error in Windows 10 32 bit but runs well in 64 bit) and reading articles I bought 2x 4GB (that was the maximum I could find for DDR2). After installing these it shows 8GB installed memory but 2.99 GB was usable. After searching further I came to the conclusion that windows 10 32 bit does not support the PAE feature to go beyond 4GB because there were many others with this problem. Because the hardware and the bios were okay I decided to take the risk and upgrade to 64 bit and also change my old 128 GB harddisk for a 1 TB SSD at the same time so my old hdd is the backup (I also bought a usb-sata cable). Most important - since I have a digital licence because of my former upgrade from Windows 7 - was to couple my digital license to my Microsoft account before starting because the license is coupled to my hardware and windows edition. I thought I had to use (U)EFI but after repeating rebooting and "Loading Files" I came to the conclusion that I keep the bios setting to legacy enabled as it was. So all went well and Windows 10 64 bit is activated for free and I have 8GB usable RAM and 1TB SSD and it is blazingly fast. No lagging anymore. I used these resources (and I read them many times over and over again before I started to get a clear picture):

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-windows_install/how-to-migrate-to-windo...

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-upgrade-32-bit-64-bit-version-windows-10

https://www.groovypost.com/howto/switch-between-32-64-bit-windows-10/

https://support.microsoft.com/nl-nl/help/12440/windows-10-activate?ocid=ActivationSettingsLearnMore

 

Cost upgrade (I already had a 8GB USB SanDisk Cruzer stick from my former upgrade):

Crucial MX500 Internal SSD,  1 TB €110,83

Komputerbay 8GB (2x 4GB) PC2-6400 DDR2 800MHz SODIMM Dual Channel Laptop Memory Kit €137,15

Sabrent USB 3.0 to SSD / 2.5-Inch SATA I/II/IIIHard Drive Adapter (EC-SSHD) €8,95

Total €256,93

 

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I looked on intel ark database and the processor support the excute disale bit function, however the fact that the soc supports it does not necessarely mean that the implementation in your model will support it.

The laptop is old and no further support is provided so do not expect bios updates, even high end mobos are stone dead on bios after 2 years at most. If i were you i would still remain on the 32 bit version since it is light and that soc is pretty much very dated. I still run a duo e4300 on my main desktop and i would never think about putting windows 10 32 bit on my sistem let alone thinking about the 64 bit version.

If i were you i will stay on 32 bit even though 1909 is and will be last 32 bit version of windows 10

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DaveM3
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Thanks for the reply but after doing some more research with tools like CPU-Z, HWINFO, Speccy (Coreinfo gave an error in Windows 10 32 bit but runs well in 64 bit) and reading articles I bought 2x 4GB (that was the maximum I could find for DDR2). After installing these it shows 8GB installed memory but 2.99 GB was usable. After searching further I came to the conclusion that windows 10 32 bit does not support the PAE feature to go beyond 4GB because there were many others with this problem. Because the hardware and the bios were okay I decided to take the risk and upgrade to 64 bit and also change my old 128 GB harddisk for a 1 TB SSD at the same time so my old hdd is the backup (I also bought a usb-sata cable). Most important - since I have a digital licence because of my former upgrade from Windows 7 - was to couple my digital license to my Microsoft account before starting because the license is coupled to my hardware and windows edition. I thought I had to use (U)EFI but after repeating rebooting and "Loading Files" I came to the conclusion that I keep the bios setting to legacy enabled as it was. So all went well and Windows 10 64 bit is activated for free and I have 8GB usable RAM and 1TB SSD and it is blazingly fast. No lagging anymore. I used these resources (and I read them many times over and over again before I started to get a clear picture):

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-windows_install/how-to-migrate-to-windo...

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-upgrade-32-bit-64-bit-version-windows-10

https://www.groovypost.com/howto/switch-between-32-64-bit-windows-10/

https://support.microsoft.com/nl-nl/help/12440/windows-10-activate?ocid=ActivationSettingsLearnMore

 

Cost upgrade (I already had a 8GB USB SanDisk Cruzer stick from my former upgrade):

Crucial MX500 Internal SSD,  1 TB €110,83

Komputerbay 8GB (2x 4GB) PC2-6400 DDR2 800MHz SODIMM Dual Channel Laptop Memory Kit €137,15

Sabrent USB 3.0 to SSD / 2.5-Inch SATA I/II/IIIHard Drive Adapter (EC-SSHD) €8,95

Total €256,93

 

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