Tumble dryer delayed start (DV80CGC0B0AEEU) Smart things Octopus agile

[Neil_C]

Hi all

I'm looking to buy a Samsung Tumble dryer (DV80CGC0B0AEEU) and it has smart things compatibility. I'm on a variable rate electricity tariff (Octopus Agile), and also have solar panels.

Is it possible to schedule the dryer's operating times on it's control panel?  My Samsung washer has a "delay end" feature, I couldn't find this in the dryers manual.

Failing that, is it possible to schedule the dryer's operating times using the smart things app?  Or similar? 

It would be great to schedule a drying cycle during periods of cheap electricity (usually between 12am and 6am), or high solar production.

Thanks in advance

[gadgetollie]

I have a series 6 tumble dryer and in the same boat.
You can set a timed finish but the only programme you can use it with is the standard timed one.
I.e you can set it to run for 2 hours and finish at 3am

The really annoying thing is you can't set a programme to start at a certain time, nor run a specific programme such as cotton where the dryer actually uses the moisture sensor to determine when the clothes are done.


Like you i am on agile and want to set the machine off at certain times, but I have no idea how long the specific batch of clothes is going to take to dry so have to just guess at a time.
Too much and i am wasting electric, not enough then they need to go on again when the electric is more expensive during the day.

I don't get the logic of not being able to set a start time with a moisture sensor based programme.
Seems like a bit of a flaw.

[footstep]

On my tumble dryer (DV80T...), you can access this feature by firstly selecting your programme (eg Cottons), then pressing the "additional functions" button (a hand icon on my machine) and scrolling through the menu to find "delay end". You can then set your desired end time so the machine will run during the cheap overnight rate.

[Damian_Sc]

I don't have a hand icon on my recently purchased Samsung DV80CGC0B0AEEU Tumble Dryer. It has a 'delay end' feature, but no 'delay start' feature which would seem far 'smarter'. I need to time the tumble dryer to run overnight as I am on Octopus. This is possible with delay end, but as far as I can tell, the programme will run regardless whether the clothes have already dried? Surely there is a way to delay the start and for a programme to stop when the clothes are dry? The dryer cost nearly £400 and is supposed to be 'smart'? This seems like a very simple feature? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

[gadgetollie]

I don't see how that is possible.
The tumble dryer can't end a 'sensed' program such as Cottons by a certain time as it would be impossible for it to know when to start so it ends at the correct time - the moisture sensor in the machine monitors the moisture and runs the machine for as long as it takes to get to your desired level on dryness. 
This is not something that can be calculated from the start of the cycle, it is monitored through the cycle, hence why it counts down to about 2 mins, then suddenly adds another half hour on top.

This is the issue, there is no function to start the machine on a sensed cycle at a specific time, then run until the clothes are detected as being dry.
The only available option is to set an end time for the machine to be finished and only using a specific 'amount' of time for it to run before hitting the end time.

OP - not helpful for overnight, but you can remote start any cycle from the smart things app, so during the day if there is any cheap units I set it up ready and use a phone reminder to then remote start it if i am out.
Overnight I either bite the bullet and start it at around 10:30pm when the unit rates tend to start to drop or just whack it on a full timed dry to ensure the clothes are fully dry as I can't see any other solution than Samsung allowing a 'program start time' ability on sensed cycles.

[Damian_Sc]

Thanks for the reply.

It would seem the obvious solution is for Samsung to update the software to allow a timed start? I am amazed such a useful and simple feature is not standard? Seems it is form other manufacturers and on much cheaper units.

Do Samsung monitor these community forums??

[andy_in_ireland]

I am aware of others putting time delay feature on their tumble dryers , but as you most probably can guess most tumble dryer fires start overnight when occupents are asleep or when they are out of the house without anyone  there to turn off the tumble drier if they smell burning - in that case just playing devils advocate here but do you think maybe samsung pourposely designed their dryer in mind so that people did not put their tumble driers on in the middle of the night for safety reasons? 
Also , how good that does the tumble dryer drum leaving damp/wet clothes in a tumble dryer for hours on end with door shut and no air circulation until the tumble dryer starts - well i cannot see that being good for the machine either.

[gadgetollie]

But you can set an end time on a timed program, and remotely start it, so it wouldn't be logical to not have a timed start feature but have a timed end and remote start feature as all three enable unattended use.

Also the fire risk is generally with condenser and traditional tumble dryers that pass air directly over an exposed heating element.  Highly flammable lint that makes it past the filters can end up building up near to the element which causes fires.
This isn't possible on heat pump dryers as they use a totally different technology (think fridge in reverse) and don't actually get that hot.  Its why you can get lint build up directly on the element or radiator as called without any issue other than degraded performance, hence having to clean the fins with the little brush every 30 or so cycles.
The fire risk from a heat pump dryer is no more than that of your fridge, dehumidifier, air con unit etc as they are the same technology and work in the same way.

Yeah would agree leaving damp/wet clothes for ages in the drum isn't particularly ideal, but i tend to plan the wash to end before I go to bed or go out so they are not sitting there too long.
Or they will have been hung out during the day so nearly dry and just in the tumble to finish off.
Washing machines usually only draw large amounts of power during the first 30 to 45 mins of the cycle to heat the water.  Beyond that its negligible to have a lot more flexibility to schedule the washing machine to be used in a cheap half hour block than the tumble dryer than needs a good couple of hours at least of cheap units.

[Damian_Sc]

Products should be tested well enough that they do not catch on fire under normal use and that goes for any appliance. I cannot see damp clothes left in a dryer for an hour or so prior to a cycle starting will affect the machine. Regardless, why have a delay end but not a delay start, makes no sense.