@Blacko wrote: I have to reveal my ignorance. What's a PM ? Private Message - you should have received a notification that you have one. ... View more

@Blacko wrote: Perhaps the KS65/9500 doesn't get the USB stick offer, when I phoned today a lady called Emma told me that 1231 was the only update available to me so looks like I,ll have to wait on 1239. Sent you a PM ... View more

As a thank you to all the effort on this (and other) sites I have been sharing a link to the KS firmware that was given to me by our friends from the Italian forum. Just a heads up that I will be removing the link tonight. So if there any last minute requests let me know via PM. ... View more

@tigernike1 wrote: Thank you Paul very much for your fast reply,looks like i am buying a Roku+ stick,you have got me thinking now,am i correct in thinking that netflix amazon youtube etc apps on the tv show 4k hdr/hlg content correctly?              thanks paul The new Amazon Firestick 4K also plays HLG via its iPlayer app.  This and the Roku+ are a similar price so best to check specs and reviews of both to chose the best for you needs ... View more

@paul1277 wrote: @tigernike1 wrote: Thank you Paul very much for your fast reply,looks like i am buying a Roku+ stick,you have got me thinking now,am i correct in thinking that netflix amazon youtube etc apps on the tv show 4k hdr/hlg content correctly?              thanks paul Not sure about YouTube,  but yes to Netflix and Amazon.  No Dolby vision though.  The Roku seems to work with iPlayer hlg.  Just a pity the on board app does not work.  The YouTube TV app supports both HDR10 and HLG. ... View more

@PM06 wrote: Hi BlenkY have you noticed that hlg iPlayer on Virgin v6 does not always engage hdr when playing not sure why this seems to happen roku stick on new firmware v9 is fine since 1239 tv upgrade. Not seen that.  HDR engages everytime on V6 and Roku+ ... View more

@ewanstancarr wrote: Sorry for slightly off topic. Any views of whether best going with Roku SS + or Amazon 4k stick. Was tossing up between the two  The Firestick supports more HDR flavours, however doesn't have a native YouTube app and as most devices does not stream Dolby Atmos from Netflix.  You get voice control and it integrates with Alexa.  Its obviously tightly integrated into the Amazon eco system whereas the Roku is independent   Apart from that I don't think there is a lot in it     ... View more

@TastyBurger666 wrote: @blenky wrote: @TastyBurger666 wrote: @blenky wrote: @Kendo88 wrote: Fire stick isn’t listed, but I don’t think Roku is listed either. Think it’s only a list of TV’s not STB’s Roku+ is listed.  The Firestick isn't but I've read a number of posts where owners are now getting HDR since installing the new firmware. The Firestick has been out all of what, a few weeks? The Roku+ at this point is the next to drop off the range on the next refresh.   I didn't need to update my Firestick to get HDR, worked out the box. Got it yesterday.   Also the HDR10+ talk should stop, the set is incapable of supporting the Wildvine API's HDR10+ needs. We all know this, it's not a new discussion. "T he Roku+ at this point is the next to drop off the range on the next refresh."   What do you mean by that?  The Roku+ has been part of all the BBC trials from the start and I don't see that changing.  Good to see with the Firestick there is an other alternative. The Roku product line-up was refeshed in September with updated hardware for 2019, including updated remotes to be more like the new Alexa remote.        True but I still don't see the Roku+ stopping support for HLG in iPlayer.  Just got the v9 update and its still there. ... View more

@TastyBurger666 wrote: @blenky wrote: @Kendo88 wrote: Fire stick isn’t listed, but I don’t think Roku is listed either. Think it’s only a list of TV’s not STB’s Roku+ is listed.  The Firestick isn't but I've read a number of posts where owners are now getting HDR since installing the new firmware. The Firestick has been out all of what, a few weeks? The Roku+ at this point is the next to drop off the range on the next refresh.   I didn't need to update my Firestick to get HDR, worked out the box. Got it yesterday.   Also the HDR10+ talk should stop, the set is incapable of supporting the Wildvine API's HDR10+ needs. We all know this, it's not a new discussion. "T he Roku+ at this point is the next to drop off the range on the next refresh."   What do you mean by that?  The Roku+ has been part of all the BBC trials from the start and I don't see that changing.  Good to see with the Firestick there is an other alternative. ... View more

@Kendo88 wrote: Fire stick isn’t listed, but I don’t think Roku is listed either. Think it’s only a list of TV’s not STB’s Roku+ is listed.  The Firestick isn't but I've read a number of posts where owners are now getting HDR since installing the new firmware. ... View more

@UHDHDR wrote: A little off-topic, since we've moved on from HDR10+ as it looks like our TVs won't get it, but for those non-believers, here is some confirmation that Amazon is indeed streaming HDR10+ content: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/465-high-dynamic-range-hdr-wide-color-gamut-wcg/2820017-hdr10-debuts-amazon-prime-video-samsung-2017-uhd-tvs-31.html#post57185540 I've forgotten the status on HDR10Plus on the KS range.  Last I remember is that it was introduced into firmware at same time as HLG but as no content no one could prove it.  Or have we moved on from then? ... View more

@tigernike1 wrote: hi,    thank you for your reply,i shall have a read,anything i need to know that is important?                    paul Don't worry. Your tv will only install firmware that is correct. It will ignore anything else ... View more

Its a 8GB stick and has the following firmwares   T-JZL6DEUC T-JZMDEUC ... View more

Got the USB disk from Samsung today.  So hopefully those who also went down that route should be getting theirs soon as well. ... View more

@rozel wrote: @FINNU wrote:   So without the 1239 update those with an updated Roku + will no longer be able to watch HLG via the iPlayer app, without an Integral or equivalent   Look that way.  I updated my Roku+ and with new 1239 firmware HLG works fine! ... View more

Anyone that wants a link PM me. On my way home from work so will respond later tonight ... View more

@stevej190 wrote: This is all very good news, at long last. I rang Samsung this morning and a USB is on the way, seems an odd way of doing it from an economy perspective but hey ho all the same. Regarding the Roku+ stick, is the Amazon app now HDR compliant? When I bought mine back in June it wasn't, although the Netflix app was. Can someone check theirs for me? Yes the app got updated a few weeks ago.  ... View more

@TastyBurger666 wrote: @UHDHDR wrote: For those with the new firmware who are also subscribed to Amazon Prime, try checking out some of their HDR content to see if this firmware adds HDR10+. Even if there is no HDR10+ indicator, it wouldn't hurt to see if you notice any difference in image quality. HDR10+ Isn't possible with any of the KS sets, much for the same reason internal HLG isn't possible.   The set is still in Samsung's terms, obsolete, and doesn't support the right API's to make it work.   That said the 1239 firmware does seem to go a long way to fixing some of the other problems with HDR10 content. It's the real deal, and works rather well.   What do you mean " does seem to go a long way to fixing some of the other problems with HDR10 content". ... View more

@UHDHDR wrote: For those with the new firmware who are also subscribed to Amazon Prime, try checking out some of their HDR content to see if this firmware adds HDR10+. Even if there is no HDR10+ indicator, it wouldn't hurt to see if you notice any difference in image quality. Its to fix HLG over HDMI.  Don't think it would add anything to with HDR10+.  Anyway I played Jack Ryan via the Roku+ Amazon player and it looked exactly the same - that is overstaurated! ... View more

A number of you have PM'd me for link to firmware. I'm at work so can't respond at the moment. I will respond this evening. ... View more

I was given a link by someone on the Italian forum.  Forum members here can PM me and I will share you my own google drive link. ... View more

Ok I have the firmware.  Installed and can categorically 100% confirm it fixes HLG over HDMI.    As I type I'm using the iPlayer app on my Virgin Media V6 box and Dynasties in in glorious UHD HLG HDR.!!!!    Doesn't look as bright as via the Roku+ so maybe the gamma curve is correct?     ... View more

Well this looks like the real deal.  Just ordered mine via live chat.   This is a much better solution than getting the internal iplayer fixed as now all connected devices will work.     I would like to thank everyone on this and the italian board for pushing for this.  Shows what a concerted effort by like minded people can achieve!   Roll on HLG content!   Edit:  Interested to see how iPlayer HLG looks with this compared to what I'm seeing via the Roku+.  Hopefully it will have the correct gamma curve?! ... View more

@Onpoint wrote: Good news guys! So I checked in on the Italian forum and saw that the moderator had said the FW is being released by Samsung as from this morning and that people should contact them. So I have and they're sending me out the update on a USB, but could take 5-7 days although hopefully sooner. It was specifically stated that the update allows HDR and HLG via inputs.     Ok sounds good. If Samsung are releasing this why are you getting it on a USB?  Won't it be released OTA and also via Samsung's web site?  Who do we contact to get this? Not via the Italian forum as I can't join due to strange anti spam question on registration.  ... View more

@mrtickle wrote: @blenky wrote: @UHDHDR wrote:   The effect of the HLG via HDMI curve from tarbat's tests would be an over brightened image that is extremely washed out.  OK maybe not quite as good as a disk but pretty close.  Much better than Netflix or Amazon streams.     Hmm, not sure I agree with that last opinion . Netflix and Amazon are going to be using the correct curve for their format (ie PQ for HDR10), without any jiggery-pokery.   Let's agree to disagree on this. I can only judge with my eyes and in my opinion Dynasties looks better than Netflix or Amazon HDR UHD. Albeit many shows in HDR from the streaming giants are excellent.  ... View more

@tarbat wrote: @UHDHDR wrote: Judging by the HLG via HDMI curve from your tests, there should be extreme over brightening that produces a very washed out image. I've experienced none of that. The image looks 100% identical to the same content via the internal app. I wouldn't say "extreme over brightening", but yes, a washed out image is what I was seeing when streaming iPlayer HLG content from the Roku Stick+. The comparison of EOTF curves between the KS TV (bottom) and an MU6400 TV (top) is obvious:       OK so it is probably brighter than it should be - but in no way washed out and nothing that can't be adjusted by gamma or brightness settings.  I compared the UHD version from my VM V6 box (which of course won't sent the HLG) to that of the Roku+.  Both were great and yes the Roku was brighter but also more vibrant.   None of the snow scenes looked any more 'bleached out' on the Roku compared to the VM. ... View more

@UHDHDR wrote: @blenky wrote: What is the visual effect of the incorrect curve?    I have a Roku+ and have watched the first two episodes of BBCs Dynasties in HDR HLG via its iPlayer app.  The picture is stunning and the me at least comparable to UHD bluray.    I can provide photos to demonstrate - although a photo from a phone won't do it justice! Streaming will never look as good as disc.   Anyways, you need to compare the same content on an external device vs an internal app on the TV. HLG videos on YouTube make the most sense.   The effect of the HLG via HDMI curve from tarbat's tests would be an over brightened image that is extremely washed out.  OK maybe not quite as good as a disk but pretty close.  Much better than Netflix or Amazon streams.   Unfortuately the YouTube app on the Roku+ will play HDR10 but not HLG clips so I can't do a direct comparison.  Hoever I've watched the second epiosde of Dynasties which is the penguins so a lot of snow.  Didn't look overbright or washed out. ... View more

What is the visual effect of the incorrect curve?    I have a Roku+ and have watched the first two episodes of BBCs Dynasties in HDR HLG via its iPlayer app.  The picture is stunning and the me at least comparable to UHD bluray.    I can provide photos to demonstrate - although a photo from a phone won't do it justice! ... View more

@chopples123 wrote: @blenky wrote: Which external device were you using when you performed this test, and was there a noticeable difference when you compared the same HLG content via the internal apps vs an external device?   I ask because I've been able to get HLG via HDMI from my M9500 player for several months now, and playing the same HLG content from the TV's internal app and the M9500 player, the content looks identical.   I'm nearly 100% confident that the problem lies with whatever external device you are using.   I'm confused.  Do you have a KS\JS TV?  One of the main issues on this thread is that no device connected via HDMI can pass HLG (exception being Roku+ or using HDFury). @UHDHDR shown HLG being passed to 2016 sets earlier in the year   link to discussion at the time   https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/TV-Audio-Video/iPlayer-HLG-UHD-HDR-on-Samsung-s-J-and-K-Series-TVs/m-p/432263#M9748   cheers OK I see - thanks. ... View more

Which external device were you using when you performed this test, and was there a noticeable difference when you compared the same HLG content via the internal apps vs an external device?   I ask because I've been able to get HLG via HDMI from my M9500 player for several months now, and playing the same HLG content from the TV's internal app and the M9500 player, the content looks identical.   I'm nearly 100% confident that the problem lies with whatever external device you are using.   I'm confused.  Do you have a KS\JS TV?  One of the main issues on this thread is that no device connected via HDMI can pass HLG (exception being Roku+ or using HDFury). ... View more