So, looking that the firmware fix is not definitive... I just remind the fix I apply from time to time. I just press on re-install, for all the Apps (at least the ones I am interested). This is enough to have them updated to the last version. For the annoying (no free space message), it disappears after some time (it seems it's quite random and maybe dependent on the storage status, hidden temporal files and so...). In any case, I don't enter in the Apps section every day, so I don't know how much it takes to disappear, but it does. And I know that my TV soft gets updated because the basic apps (the ones that you cannot remove) vary along the time.   This is only for the guys that want to keep with their lives without having much trouble and are happy with the rest of features the TV has (in any case I understand those ones asking for a refund). ... View more

I will abandon this thread because after more than 7 months I have not had this problem again. I only saw the error twice (one month and 3 months after buying the TV) and it was solved by re-installing some apps and letting the other update alone.   For the ones this is a more recurring issue I hope Samsung do something for you. ... View more

I purchased my TV on Amazon Spain and yesterday I went to see the comments. One of the most voted ones was from one guy complaining about our "problem". It had around 60 likes. Then there was other one pretty similar with 20 likes or so.   I guess they already know the issue, and even if they are big, there will be hundreds of customers in every country returning their TV, so this cannot be unnoticed. I guess also the issue will not be easy to fix. On one side there's the hardware limitation of 1Gb, and on the other they cannot let remove applications that they will be committed to not allow to uninstall. In any case if the wanted they could do it. I don't think is so hard to implement a smarter update procedure, cleaning temporal data and installing applications step by step.     ... View more

@bIOforger wrote: @AQuALoRd wrote: Just to say that after my problem 2 days ago I didn't see the pop up anymore and my free space is above 120MB.   As I said I updated some applications by reinstalling them and it worked. That is much less painful than resetting the Smart Hub account.   I guess the error is due to a race condition appearing when the disk is filled by temporal files or it wants to update many apps at the same file.   After the first time I had the issue in December this is the first time that it was repeated and I solved it in 5 minutes so although an update by Samsung would be welcome I think I can live with it. Been there, done that, error will popup again next month. Some people have even been unable to update after removing any apps, as the freespace was still misreported. The point is that to avoid the pop up you have to "re-install" and not update, to get out of the deadlock. Trying to remove apps is pointless because as everybody points out most of the apps cannot be removed. Once you re-install a couple of apps (with the newest version) there will be less applications to update and less free space required, so the pop up will disappear.   And it's not very likely you will see the message every month. That only would happen if you have lots of apps, because many of them are updated with a lower frequency. Most of the apps that I had where updated on January or December.   I still think this should not happen (and I retwitted and liked some of your messages in Twitter). This is just to help the people that think they can do nothing by resetting Smart Hub to get out of the pop-up block. This method is much much less painful.   ... View more

Just to say that after my problem 2 days ago I didn't see the pop up anymore and my free space is above 120MB.   As I said I updated some applications by reinstalling them and it worked. That is much less painful than resetting the Smart Hub account.   I guess the error is due to a race condition appearing when the disk is filled by temporal files or it wants to update many apps at the same file.   After the first time I had the issue in December this is the first time that it was repeated and I solved it in 5 minutes so although an update by Samsung would be welcome I think I can live with it. ... View more

My theory is that the TV is checking for available space even if it doesn't have anything to update. Today the space bar shows 114MB free, what is more than what it was showing today. Then this is maybe why it doesn't complain.   This issue is annoying but I had it three times and with little effort I could have all the applications updated. I hope Samsung releases a new OS version that fix this, and if not, for people that cannot or doesn't want to change their TVs, I think we can learn how to live with this with not so many trouble. Even I understand this is inaceptable for a company like Samsung. ... View more

After doing yesterday what I told in my message above, today I see no notification in the Apps application. I went to chche the details option in all of my applications installed, one by one, and all of them where up to date to the last version. What it's more weird is that the date of the last update wasn't yesterday for any of them, so they all were already up to date.   Now I wonder why the Apps tools asked space for, maybe to update itself?   There's also the option that the update date field means the date the update was released and not when it was really installed but I don't think so. ... View more

I still think there's an issue that a firmware update could fix because the space notified by Apps updater can change a lot and it is clear that it miscalculates it. Yesterday it was saying I needed 100 MB when I had 92 free MB. Then I reinstalled all the apps one by one and end up sawing that it was asking for 65MB when I had 90MB free. I don't think it is only related to the data space availability but to how Samsung manages this.   Another story is if we can do enough noise to make them acknowledge this. ... View more

I had this issue some months ago, I could update my apps by resetting the TV to factory defaults (and starting all the apps directly with the new versions I guess). From that moment I didn't see any issue. ... View more

And yes, their solution was: Reset Smart Hub and plug an USB disk. So we are forced to restore everytime we have this issue. That's quite annoying if it happens often.   I think this could be easy to solve by a Software update. They should update applications one by one and not all at the same time.    If they do not plan to fix it, they at least should let us uninstall some of the uninstalable applications (Facebook or other stuff).  ... View more

Yes, I agree on what you say about the external storage, because I have a HDD permanently plugged to the TV and the error prompted anyway, so I think it will not work.   Regarding the space required, just to say that the last time I saw the alert, it was asking only for 85Mb (my TV was restarted to original configuration and I had just the core apps). It was failing even if I had 100 free Mb, so I don't know how this was fixed, but apparently it was. ... View more

Hi, I only wanted to say that the next day after resetting my TV to defaults, the issue was solved. There was no error message and all my applications where updated to a recent version. However, I was not sure that this couldn't happen in the future.   Two days after I received a call from Samsung (because I asked for support from the TV menu) and they told me that I should plug a USB if that happens again... They also said that to have 100Mb free is normal for my TV model...  ... View more

Hi Tony47. I read the full thread and also the one you opened in avforums.com , and the behavior is just what you say in your last message and what it was happening to me before doing the restore. I had 700MB allocated and only ~80MB free, according to the OS. The update needed ~100MB and it couldn't be done because 80<100. However, after restoring I posted my comment because what I saw is something that nobody reported before (correct me if I am wrong). Now I have more free space that the system would need for the update. Not only real free space, but also free space detected by the OS. The Apps alert says that I need ~80MB for the update, but I have 112 free MB. So not only the OS is badly checking for the free space, but also something is wrong in the logic of the update, because 112>80. ... View more

I can upload some captures in the night so you can see what I am saying. ... View more

I do not have the TV in front of me right now but I referred to the option inside APPS aplication.   If you enter to APPS , after watching the error of "no enough free storage for updating..." you have some options at the right-above corner. If I remember well, one is to change your Samsung account and the other one is a wheel (which I called configuration) in which you can do some operations with the installed apps (Move/Block/Unblock/Uninstall/Details...). In that window there is a status bar at the top indicating which percentage of the available storage is used.    That information matches the one prompted by the error in free MBs. The difference is that before restoring the error showed 85Mb free and I needed 100Mb to update. After restoring I need ~90Mb for the update and I have ~110Mb free.. so I guess freeing more space would not do nothing.    I think that, as someone else is saying, that the OS is not able to read ok the free space. ... View more

This is weird. I had the same issue today. I restored my TV to fabric configuration. After entering in Apps it says that 84MB are requested and I don't have enough to storage. But when I go to configuration it says I have 112 free MB!! So it is not only that it is not able to read the free space... ... View more