10-07-2019 09:26 PM - last edited 08-10-2019 04:42 PM
Sadly, the answer is to switch your device to SDR. You can sit in a pitch black room and mess with settings all you want - that won’t fix it.
This means that you have to notice, or know, that the video you want to watch will be streamed in Dolby Vision HDR and change a setting every time (then change it back - what a pain!) to accommodate this.
a) *EDIT* THE INFORMATION IN a) BELOW IS WRONG. I HAVE LEFT IT IN PLACE SO AS NOT TO CONFUSE PEOPLE WHO SUBSEQUENTLY RE-READ IT. IT APPEARS THAT, FOR MORE MODERN TELLYS AT LEAST, THE OPTION ("INPUT SIGNAL PLUS" IN SETTINGS/ GENERAL/ EXTERNAL DEVICE MANAGER) FOR TOGGLING BETWEEN HDR AND SDR ONLY FUNCTIONS IF YOU ARE WATCHING VIA AN EXTERNAL DEVICE SUCH AS AN APPLE-TV OR A FIRESTICK. IF YOU ARE USING THE TELLY'S OWN SMART NETFLIX APP THERE APPEARS TO BE NO OPTION TO TOGGLE BETWEEN HDR AND SDR.
a) If watching via the Netflix smart app on the Samsung HDR telly itself, turn off the HDR settings in the telly’s General/ External Device Manager settings which set the input ports for HDR. Usually called HDMI UHD Colour or Input Signal Plus. (EDIT: NO, THAT WON'T WORK. )
Now the Netflix Dolby Vision HDR video will still play in 4k/UHD but only in SDR. (And only in 8-bit) But, at least, you can see it without having to sit in the coal cellar.
(May cause unwanted changes to other devices connected to the TV)
Remember to turn those settings back on again for non-HDR Netflix videos and for all Amazon etc. videos.
b) If watching via an AppleTV 4k connected to a Samsung HDR TV the following are usually the best Video settings in the AppeTV for everything except Netflix HDR videos. I recommend using them all the time:
- 4K SDR (Yes, SDR!) in 50Hz (UK) or 60Hz
- Chroma 420 (To enable 10-bit on most, not-super-expensive, Samsung tellys)
- Match Content > Range and Frame Rate both turned on.
Now, to watch a Netflix Dolby Vision HDR video in SDR on a Samsung HDR TV, simply turn off Match Dynamic Range (only) in the Match Content setting referred to above. EDIT :SO LONG AS YOU HAVE SET YOUR APPLE-TV TO SDR AS I HAVE RECOMMENDED ABOVE.
Now the Netflix Dolby Vision HDR video which you want to watch will still play in 4k/UHD but only in SDR. (And only in 8-bit)
Remember to turn that Range setting back on again for non-HDR Netflix videos and for all Amazon etc. videos.
EDIT: NOTE THAT, IF YOU ALTERNATIVELY ELECT TO TURN OFF HDR WHEN USING AN APPLE-TV BY USING THE "INPUT SIGNAL PLUS" SETTING IN YOUR SAMSUNG TV SETTINGS, THAT WILL WORK BUT THEN YOUR APPLE TV WILL SENSE THAT IT IS NO LONGER CONNECTED TO AN HDR TV AND WILL PROBABLY ALTER SEVERAL OF IT'S OWN SETTINGS.
EXPLANATIONS:
Firstly, the “best” AppleTV settings shown above will allow SDR Videos and the Home Screen to display correctly and then, when you start to play any HDR video, the AppleTV automatically switches itself to output HDR ( and automatically back to SDR again, when done.) EDIT: UNLESS, OF COURSE, YOU HAVE TURNED OFF THE "MATCH RANGE" OPTION IN ORDER TO WATCH A NETFLIX DOLBY VISION VIDEO.
Netflix outputs it’s HDR videos in Dolby Vision HDR format. Many brands of telly display this OK but Samsung tellys are designed to use the rival HDR10+ format. Dolby Vision formatted videos display badly on Samsung TVs. Full stop!
Amazon Prime output their HDR videos in HDR10+ format so they display nicely on Samsung tellys.
Netflix claim to output HDR in both Dolby Vision format and in vanilla HDR10 (without a +) format. Presumably, if we could get them to send HRD10 (without a +) format videos to our Samsung TVs that would fix the problem. But, I rang Netflix, and it seems (in a very vague conversation) that this is not possible unless our AppleTVs could somehow request it.
Dolby Vision vs HDR10+. Who will win the battle to become the industry standard?
Note that this correct AFAIK on 08/10/2019 and may change in future. Those of us who just bought new Samsung TV sets will be keeping our fingers crossed!
EDIT: MY APOLOGIES FOR THE EDITS!
26-07-2020 01:35 PM
Try the “Contrast enhancer” option in “Expert settings” and lower it. It worked for me.
27-07-2020 11:08 AM
july 27 still no update for hdr
27-07-2020 08:01 PM - last edited 27-07-2020 08:08 PM
Just downloaded and installed the latest firmware update 1302 which came out today from this website and installed via USB and can confirm it is brighter using netflix, watching The Witcher with the dynamic picture mode as all other modes are darker.
(Used The Witcher as an example because the beginning of Season one episode one is very dark)
27-07-2020 08:44 PM
Hi, Im currently running 1115 and there's no option to update. Any ideas?? Thx
27-07-2020 08:51 PM - last edited 27-07-2020 08:52 PM
Use a PC or mobile phone and a USB stick, goto this address https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/model/UE65TU7110KXXU/ to download the update via Windows or Android.
Then unzip the file in your USB stick (must be on main USB stick and not in a folder) and stick it in your TV in the USB socket and it'll update straight away, if not go to update via settings and it'll find your firmware update.
(I'm using my TV firmware update as an example but you must search for your own tv to download and use as I'm not sure if all samsung tvs get this update but mine updated to 1302 today)
28-07-2020 04:38 AM - last edited 28-07-2020 05:00 AM
Thanks XenomorphXx121
for your input. It has prompted me to do likewise. I share my learnings:
1. My Sammy RU7100 has not received an update in the 9 months that I've owned it.
2. No updates are available for my model as above when updating through the TV.
3.My firmware version is currently 1356. I note other contributors have varying versions such as 1302 and 1115. Most likely related to their TV model or location. I am in Australia.
4. When checking the Australian Samsung website I note there is only the 1356 version of firmware available for download to USB.
It's nice to know that someone is receiving an update that has lead to improved picture quality.
Hope springs eternal.
28-07-2020 04:59 AM
Nothing for my NU7100 either on website or the TV menu
28-07-2020 08:53 AM
TU7100 update on website and YES! i confirm it fixed the issue completely, finally! I don't know the difference between the RU7100 and TU7100 so cant say if the updates are compatible. https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/model/UE65TU7100KXXU/
28-07-2020 09:12 AM - last edited 28-07-2020 09:15 AM
Waiting for TU7072 update to fix this !
28-07-2020 09:15 AM
I have TU7072. Do you think that this will be applied on my tv too?
Is the dark scene fixed full?