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Brand new 55 Q9FN, terrible panel quality

(Topic created on: 27-06-2018 09:05 PM)
DarkKnight90UK
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Hi, 

 

I've just switched from a 49 MU7000 to a 55 Q9FN and was giddy with excitement about finally owning a top end TV. 

 

Unfortunately, I've either received a dud or there's an inherent problem with the tech; for HDR (and even SDR content), the screen goes /incredibly/ dark during dark scenes. We aren't talking perfect QLED blacks here; all detail is lost, UNLESS I leave a white menu screen up. 20180627_195814.jpg

 

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 As you can see from the photos. Annoyingly, I'm also using an S9 to take the photos so it does a better job of amplifying the incoming light, but believe me when I say it's even worse than the TV is showing. I would estimate that the unlit picture is displaying at <10 nits. 

 

I ascribed this to either a problem with local dimming or eco mode, but modifying both of those settings made no difference. It's making using the tv for anything other than bright content unusable, and I didn't honestly expect a £3000 TV to be notably worse than a £700 TV. 

 

Please advise. 

 

P.S: Why have Samsung removed the ability to change audio languages when playing from a USB source? All of my movies are playing in Italian or Portuguese with no way to change it. 

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Harry_P
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I've been wondering, if Samsung decides to replace the panel on a two week old, 3.5k TV, would that be acceptable to you?

To be honest, I don't know how authorized services obtain panel replacements. How can you ensure that a brand new panel is going to be installed and not a second hand for example?

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paul1277
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@Harry_P wrote:

I've been wondering, if Samsung decides to replace the panel on a two week old, 3.5k TV, would that be acceptable to you?

To be honest, I don't know how authorized services obtain panel replacements. How can you ensure that a brand new panel is going to be installed and not a second hand for example?


If it is only 2 weeks old I would ask for a replacement new telly that why you know it is a new panel.

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Harry_P
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I'll ask tomorrow but I highly doubt they're going to send to me a boxed new television. They'd probably say that replacement panel is like new TV. Let's see.

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KA366
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Have they confirmed it’s a hardware issue?

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Harry_P
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Not really, they're replacing the panel due to terrible DSE and banding. I can ask them about the dimming issue and of course I'll check it on the new panel and update you. Sorry I don't have the answer right now.

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paul1277
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@Harry_P wrote:

Not really, they're replacing the panel due to terrible DSE and banding. I can ask them about the dimming issue and of course I'll check it on the new panel and update you. Sorry I don't have the answer right now.

 

If you bought online or at a major retailer and you are in the first 4 weeks yes you can ask for a refund repair or replacement. After the 4 weeks then they can make 2 attempts to repair then you can ask for refund or replacement. 


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Harry_P
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@paul Is it like that in US? In Europe where I live, I don't think there's such customer protection regulation (or perhaps I'm wrong).

 

Samsung support in the country I live told me that they'll try first with a panel replacement and if that doesn't work out it's going to be refund/TV replacement.

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Harry_P
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Samsung support changed my panel today due to extensive DSE/banding. I saw some improvement with the new panel but still not impressed, though I plan to keep the panel as I don't want to go in that cycle of constantly replacing panels until I find the best one. At least I can't see DSE as much in football/sports now, which was my main concern.

 

With regarding to the dimming issue, I saw no improvement, it's exactly the same, thus I believe it's a software issue (or a massive issue on panels produced in the Slovakian factory).

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KA366
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Thanks for the update! Did you by chance raise the issue with Samsung during the process?? 

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Harry_P
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Not really, as I do not speak the language in the country I'm currently living in, and explaining that "issue" would be kind of hard.

 

I hope we can get it sorted in a firmware update sometime soon!

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