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2020 QLED T models (Q80T, Q90T, Q800T, Q900T) HDR game mode brightness / local dimming bug

(Topic created on: 27-01-2021 07:16 PM)
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Rauttis
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I bought a Q80T a couple of days ago and have noticed a really annoying issue when using the tv with the combination of HDR and game mode.

 

I'm fairly certain this is a software bug in the TV since I can reproduce this issue with 100% accuracy, and it happens on the dot at the same moment every time. It's basically on a timer.

 

Basically when the game is displaying a HDR signal and game mode is enabled, exactly after 6 minutes the brightness of the TV suddenly drops by around 20 (50 -> 30). The value of brightness setting doesn't actually change however. Messing with the brightness setting does not restore the brightness to it's original state, but changing the local dimming setting from standard to low and then back to standard does. Switching game mode off and then back on also fixes the issue, but then it happens again EXACTLY after 6 minutes (I've timed this with a stopwatch).

 

Has anyone else experienced this issue? Or can someone maybe test this on their TV to see if you can reproduce it?

 

Exact repro steps on how I can reproduce this 100% of the time on the PS4 Pro:

  1. Set brightness to max (50)
  2. Set local dimming to standard (bug happens on high as well)
  3. Enable game mode
  4. Turn off game motion plus
  5. Turn off intelligent mode and all the brightness related settings in eco settings, as these can influence the brightness level of the tv.
  6. Launch a game that runs in HDR
  7. Start your stopwatch
  8. Do whatever you want in the game or you can also go back to PS4 menus, find a bright scene where you can notice a brightness drop easily
  9. When the stopwatch hits 6 minutes, you should see the TVs brightness suddenly drop by a large amount. By eye the brightness drop seems about equal to dropping the brightness from 50 -> 30 by hand.
  10. Go to picture settings and set local dimming to low (brightness does not change)
  11. Set local dimming back to standard (brightness suddenly jumps to the original level. Brightness can be restored by switching input away and back as well, or by disabling and re-enabling game mode)
  12. And again after EXACTLY 6 minutes the bug again repeats and the brightness drops down again

Some other notes: The PS4 has a screensaver that basically dims the screen if it is idle for a while. This is not the cause of this, this happens even when the console is in active use and the brightness can be restored temporarily by changing the local dimming setting like described above. I have not managed to reproduce this issue with game mode off, so it seems to be related to game mode.

 

Software version: 1304

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Q95T
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Hey man ive got Q95 65" and i see six dad pixel on middle of screen and one bottom right corner, tv is 4 month old and ive buy it in Hungary, i contact my dealer and he contact samsung i wish if they wanna solve this problem because ive got warranty? 

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Suhorukow
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local dimming bug . Guys. Im sure for now ita bug with light in room. If enough light in room all fine. But when lights switchoff - its start work like energy save setting.

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Galaxy_Echo
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Thanks for your experience. I'll try it tomorrow and see if it can be resolved temporarily.

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peterQ95T
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Hi Guys 

My journey so far with this TV Q95T 65 inch is that i got my 3 Panel replaced yesterday due to several issues.

First Panel had a clicking sound on startup and 3 dead pixels middle of the screen.

Second Panel had horrible DSE and 4 dead pixels lower right corner and wifi issues

Third Panel  that i got now have less DSE and beacuse its a lottery how bad Panel you will get regarding this issue im gonna keep this TV. No dead pixels. 

All Panels where manufactured in Hungary. Its seem that they dont have any quality check before they send out these "bad" panels.

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Robertjan88
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Just bought the Q90T in the Netherlands , and waiting for it to arrive. Now I wonder if I made the right choice. If you turn on Game Motion Plus, will the dimming bug occur as well? If not, why would you turn this off? What happens if you use VRR? Lastly, when talking game mode Vs movie mode, will it happen in both modes? If not playing shooters, is moving mode also fine from an MS input lag perspective? Sorry for so many question, but this treat scared me. 😞

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lmpcardoso
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Do yourself a favor and return the tv immediately. 

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PeterHu
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"obtain a 75" Q90T for less than a 65" I guess it was a shady store and got a unit which has been already returned. Here TvReus and El-Vidas has 65Q90Ts 200€ less than the market...it's always suspicious. In an another forum someone found they have the same return address.

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peterQ95T
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We should all go Sony/LG 2021 look CES 😎😎🤟🏻👍🏻👍🏻 

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peterQ95T
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Iknow im a bitter swede but im going bonnie  and clyde without you sam*thing* 

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lmpcardoso
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Agree