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2020 QLED T models (Q80T, Q90T, Q800T, Q900T) HDR game mode brightness / local dimming bug

(Topic created on: 07-01-2021 03:29 PM)
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Rauttis
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I bought a Q80T a couple of days ago and have noticed a really annoying issue when using the tv with the combination of HDR and game mode.

 

I'm fairly certain this is a software bug in the TV since I can reproduce this issue with 100% accuracy, and it happens on the dot at the same moment every time. It's basically on a timer.

 

Basically when the game is displaying a HDR signal and game mode is enabled, exactly after 6 minutes the brightness of the TV suddenly drops by around 20 (50 -> 30). The value of brightness setting doesn't actually change however. Messing with the brightness setting does not restore the brightness to it's original state, but changing the local dimming setting from standard to low and then back to standard does. Switching game mode off and then back on also fixes the issue, but then it happens again EXACTLY after 6 minutes (I've timed this with a stopwatch).

 

Has anyone else experienced this issue? Or can someone maybe test this on their TV to see if you can reproduce it?

 

Exact repro steps on how I can reproduce this 100% of the time on the PS4 Pro:

  1. Set brightness to max (50)
  2. Set local dimming to standard (bug happens on high as well)
  3. Enable game mode
  4. Turn off game motion plus
  5. Turn off intelligent mode and all the brightness related settings in eco settings, as these can influence the brightness level of the tv.
  6. Launch a game that runs in HDR
  7. Start your stopwatch
  8. Do whatever you want in the game or you can also go back to PS4 menus, find a bright scene where you can notice a brightness drop easily
  9. When the stopwatch hits 6 minutes, you should see the TVs brightness suddenly drop by a large amount. By eye the brightness drop seems about equal to dropping the brightness from 50 -> 30 by hand.
  10. Go to picture settings and set local dimming to low (brightness does not change)
  11. Set local dimming back to standard (brightness suddenly jumps to the original level. Brightness can be restored by switching input away and back as well, or by disabling and re-enabling game mode)
  12. And again after EXACTLY 6 minutes the bug again repeats and the brightness drops down again

Some other notes: The PS4 has a screensaver that basically dims the screen if it is idle for a while. This is not the cause of this, this happens even when the console is in active use and the brightness can be restored temporarily by changing the local dimming setting like described above. I have not managed to reproduce this issue with game mode off, so it seems to be related to game mode.

 

Software version: 1304

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PeterHu
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Where are you come from if may I ask? It would be good to know where are the faulty units.

peterQ95T
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Sweden but my unit was made in Hungary.

In other forums like AVforum etc people claims that units made in Hungary have the most problem with DSE for some reason. 

 

RouDeR
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My 75 Q800T is also from Hungary and has terrible DSE, however it is not noticeble in the games that I play most of the time and I`m not watching sports so it isn't big deal for me (i`m just pleased that I don't have ghosting).

peterQ95T
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thats not ok for a premium 8K tv. you should get at replacement and hope for the man in the sky to be nice to ya :).

Its a lottery iknow but samsung need to pay for terrible quality

alangilbert
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Hello.I didnt get any issue yet.

im much impressed with the Q model of Samsung 4k smart tvs.i saw reviews on gearsireview

and bought it

 

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BogaMoge
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Good for you.

Now do you have any help to offer people having these issues or are you just here to promote that site?

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Galaxy_Echo
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Since local dimming is not functional in game mode, I'm forced to play games in other modes. It's really annoying that brightness drops about 40% every 6~8 minutes while playing HDR games. I'm displeased and hope Samsung can fix this bug as soon as possible.

redlum77
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I've send back a 65" Q90T due to DSE and wanting to wait for miniLed or maybe future OLED.
Finally I had a chance to obtain a 75" Q90T for less than a 65"... But I loose the panel lottery, the second one is much worse than the first one.... 😞
 
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PeterHu
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Where are you come from Redlum77? Do you know where your TV was manufactured? If it's Hungary, then someone at the Quality Control in the factory doesn't do his job. It can happen one lazy ***** let out all these panels.

redlum77
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From Belgium. And yes, the panel came from Hungary.

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