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2020 QLED T models (Q80T, Q90T, Q800T, Q900T) HDR game mode brightness / local dimming bug

(Topic created on: 10-10-2020 08:59 PM)
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Rauttis
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I bought a Q80T a couple of days ago and have noticed a really annoying issue when using the tv with the combination of HDR and game mode.

 

I'm fairly certain this is a software bug in the TV since I can reproduce this issue with 100% accuracy, and it happens on the dot at the same moment every time. It's basically on a timer.

 

Basically when the game is displaying a HDR signal and game mode is enabled, exactly after 6 minutes the brightness of the TV suddenly drops by around 20 (50 -> 30). The value of brightness setting doesn't actually change however. Messing with the brightness setting does not restore the brightness to it's original state, but changing the local dimming setting from standard to low and then back to standard does. Switching game mode off and then back on also fixes the issue, but then it happens again EXACTLY after 6 minutes (I've timed this with a stopwatch).

 

Has anyone else experienced this issue? Or can someone maybe test this on their TV to see if you can reproduce it?

 

Exact repro steps on how I can reproduce this 100% of the time on the PS4 Pro:

  1. Set brightness to max (50)
  2. Set local dimming to standard (bug happens on high as well)
  3. Enable game mode
  4. Turn off game motion plus
  5. Turn off intelligent mode and all the brightness related settings in eco settings, as these can influence the brightness level of the tv.
  6. Launch a game that runs in HDR
  7. Start your stopwatch
  8. Do whatever you want in the game or you can also go back to PS4 menus, find a bright scene where you can notice a brightness drop easily
  9. When the stopwatch hits 6 minutes, you should see the TVs brightness suddenly drop by a large amount. By eye the brightness drop seems about equal to dropping the brightness from 50 -> 30 by hand.
  10. Go to picture settings and set local dimming to low (brightness does not change)
  11. Set local dimming back to standard (brightness suddenly jumps to the original level. Brightness can be restored by switching input away and back as well, or by disabling and re-enabling game mode)
  12. And again after EXACTLY 6 minutes the bug again repeats and the brightness drops down again

Some other notes: The PS4 has a screensaver that basically dims the screen if it is idle for a while. This is not the cause of this, this happens even when the console is in active use and the brightness can be restored temporarily by changing the local dimming setting like described above. I have not managed to reproduce this issue with game mode off, so it seems to be related to game mode.

 

Software version: 1304

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HQboy
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I don't have dimming bug... I just want samsung to fix the effectiveness of localdimming, so that it works completely with GMP turned off. As it was before firmware1304.

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QuantumP
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Agree. I am sure fraud Suriya can speak to his imaginary friends at Samsung to see if there is an updates. Or maybe he can “beta” test a imaginary firmware.

 

Suriya the arab living in the United Arab Emirates, claiming to be indian. And trying extort money for his firmware link that he downloaded from uae samsung support website and uploading it to google drive to try and get paypal donations.

 

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Danmay
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Thanks for this, very helpful.

 

Interesting you don't have the scrolling lines issues. It could be the US panels have a more recent update, or that US panels come from a different supplier/use different chips.

 

Issue with the VRR being dark is, who's to say this won't continue to be an issue with next gen consoles?

 

I came from a 49xf9005 Sony which was fab. I was hoping the q90t would be an upgrade in all areas. Annoyingly it appears not...

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DUSKTILLDAWN
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Cheers troll if yours if fixed why be on here others are moody with faulty q90t .enjoy yours and stay quiet.

 

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QuantumP
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No dark VRR here either. No need to be rude. I will not be silenced by you. Thank you.

MJ1931
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Haha its like the game of poker scene in "one flew over the cuckoos nest" this message board, all over the show

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Toejo78
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I have a UK q95t with all these problems. I have a week left on my return and I'm unsure what to do.

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QuantumP
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Finally there is peace and quiet in this thread now. Now we can focus back on task

QuantumP
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I have Q95T and do not have any issues since the latest update. The update 1402.6 is a good one.

QuantumP
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Look forward to getting the series x connected to this tv.