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2020 QLED T models (Q80T, Q90T, Q800T, Q900T) HDR game mode brightness / local dimming bug

(Topic created on: 07-10-2020 01:03 PM)
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Rauttis
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I bought a Q80T a couple of days ago and have noticed a really annoying issue when using the tv with the combination of HDR and game mode.

 

I'm fairly certain this is a software bug in the TV since I can reproduce this issue with 100% accuracy, and it happens on the dot at the same moment every time. It's basically on a timer.

 

Basically when the game is displaying a HDR signal and game mode is enabled, exactly after 6 minutes the brightness of the TV suddenly drops by around 20 (50 -> 30). The value of brightness setting doesn't actually change however. Messing with the brightness setting does not restore the brightness to it's original state, but changing the local dimming setting from standard to low and then back to standard does. Switching game mode off and then back on also fixes the issue, but then it happens again EXACTLY after 6 minutes (I've timed this with a stopwatch).

 

Has anyone else experienced this issue? Or can someone maybe test this on their TV to see if you can reproduce it?

 

Exact repro steps on how I can reproduce this 100% of the time on the PS4 Pro:

  1. Set brightness to max (50)
  2. Set local dimming to standard (bug happens on high as well)
  3. Enable game mode
  4. Turn off game motion plus
  5. Turn off intelligent mode and all the brightness related settings in eco settings, as these can influence the brightness level of the tv.
  6. Launch a game that runs in HDR
  7. Start your stopwatch
  8. Do whatever you want in the game or you can also go back to PS4 menus, find a bright scene where you can notice a brightness drop easily
  9. When the stopwatch hits 6 minutes, you should see the TVs brightness suddenly drop by a large amount. By eye the brightness drop seems about equal to dropping the brightness from 50 -> 30 by hand.
  10. Go to picture settings and set local dimming to low (brightness does not change)
  11. Set local dimming back to standard (brightness suddenly jumps to the original level. Brightness can be restored by switching input away and back as well, or by disabling and re-enabling game mode)
  12. And again after EXACTLY 6 minutes the bug again repeats and the brightness drops down again

Some other notes: The PS4 has a screensaver that basically dims the screen if it is idle for a while. This is not the cause of this, this happens even when the console is in active use and the brightness can be restored temporarily by changing the local dimming setting like described above. I have not managed to reproduce this issue with game mode off, so it seems to be related to game mode.

 

Software version: 1304

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CypherXCII
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the worst thing you can do on an oled is gaming. no tv is perfect, the cx also has its problems. google yourself. wish you good luck with the choice you make. And for myself if all games are 4k 60fps on the nextgen i'll be very happy.

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Snir4
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I agree bro I have Q95t and it’s a garbage tv!

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jayh89
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Most current TVs don't really do VRR in 4k at 120Hz. Only 2 or 3 OLED TVs manage it. However, there was a YT video showing a Samsung QLED doing 4k at 120Hz so... see the chart on this page https://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/motion/variable-refresh-rate

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Keitoki
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it's crazy, we  are still waiting for this update... never samsung again 😠

Toejo78
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There must be an EU Samsung director who actually owns their own brand products.  Surely they are as fed up as us with all the bugs and slow firmware.  I'm not even sure why they don't have one centralised firmware team. Seems ridiculous.  For a brand this big its appalling. 

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Keitoki
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Possible to ban ip av2020 ? Do your job moderators... 

RouDeR
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You obviously don't know the difference between moderators and administrators.. sight.


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Keitoki
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Ok bro, great intervention :smiling-face:

SidL
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The next-gen games will barely run in NATIVE 4K at 60fps imagine 120 😂 for me if it's 60fps in 1800p without ray-tracing it's already good for consoles

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NickHwd
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Are you suggesting this message isn't genuine? Don't be so cynical! The world would be a much better place if only we trusted each other a bit more.

Anyway, I must dash. I've just found out I'm related to a recently deceased Nigerian prince and, quite unexpectedly, I've inherited millions. I need to send my bank details to his officials so they can send me the money.