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2020 QLED T models (Q80T, Q90T, Q800T, Q900T) HDR game mode brightness / local dimming bug

(Topic created on: 20-09-2020 12:39 PM)
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Rauttis
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I bought a Q80T a couple of days ago and have noticed a really annoying issue when using the tv with the combination of HDR and game mode.

 

I'm fairly certain this is a software bug in the TV since I can reproduce this issue with 100% accuracy, and it happens on the dot at the same moment every time. It's basically on a timer.

 

Basically when the game is displaying a HDR signal and game mode is enabled, exactly after 6 minutes the brightness of the TV suddenly drops by around 20 (50 -> 30). The value of brightness setting doesn't actually change however. Messing with the brightness setting does not restore the brightness to it's original state, but changing the local dimming setting from standard to low and then back to standard does. Switching game mode off and then back on also fixes the issue, but then it happens again EXACTLY after 6 minutes (I've timed this with a stopwatch).

 

Has anyone else experienced this issue? Or can someone maybe test this on their TV to see if you can reproduce it?

 

Exact repro steps on how I can reproduce this 100% of the time on the PS4 Pro:

  1. Set brightness to max (50)
  2. Set local dimming to standard (bug happens on high as well)
  3. Enable game mode
  4. Turn off game motion plus
  5. Turn off intelligent mode and all the brightness related settings in eco settings, as these can influence the brightness level of the tv.
  6. Launch a game that runs in HDR
  7. Start your stopwatch
  8. Do whatever you want in the game or you can also go back to PS4 menus, find a bright scene where you can notice a brightness drop easily
  9. When the stopwatch hits 6 minutes, you should see the TVs brightness suddenly drop by a large amount. By eye the brightness drop seems about equal to dropping the brightness from 50 -> 30 by hand.
  10. Go to picture settings and set local dimming to low (brightness does not change)
  11. Set local dimming back to standard (brightness suddenly jumps to the original level. Brightness can be restored by switching input away and back as well, or by disabling and re-enabling game mode)
  12. And again after EXACTLY 6 minutes the bug again repeats and the brightness drops down again

Some other notes: The PS4 has a screensaver that basically dims the screen if it is idle for a while. This is not the cause of this, this happens even when the console is in active use and the brightness can be restored temporarily by changing the local dimming setting like described above. I have not managed to reproduce this issue with game mode off, so it seems to be related to game mode.

 

Software version: 1304

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daparky
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I'm currently in the market for a new TV to go with the upcoming PS5.

 

I currently have the KS8000 and remember that set had a HDR bug where the settings wouldn't save going from SDR to HDR and vice versa. You had to manually adjust the back-light upon switching.

 

Samsung did finally fix the issue through firmware update, but hell, it took a ***** long long time for it to arrive.

 

Nevertheless, it did get fixed eventually. 

 

This topic does worry me and puts me off buying one, I dont think I could do with spending £££ waiting for a firmware update to fix a niggly thing like this.

 

The TV seems perfect for next gen gaming but is hugely letdown by firmware updates etc.

I might sit on the fence or look elsewhere but Samsung need to have this fixed in time for next gen consoles. 

TomasTSH
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I'd recommend waiting a bit, this TV will either get cheaper or there's gonma be a new thing even better thing coming, but if they fix this issue for me it's perfect

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Tv52
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As for me this issue is nothing comparing to this one https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/tv/q95t-game-mode-green-purple-blue-tint/m-p/2030415#M48059 it makes games unplayable. 

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TomasTSH
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Not many people complaining about this tint issue, are you sure it's not a faulty TV? On a few games I've tried on ps4 pro I haven't seen this issue on q90t.

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HQboy
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My set doesn't have this tint issue

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Tv52
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Do you maybe have „Rise of the Tomb Raider” it was mostly evident there.

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daparky
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Does anyone have a video of the dimming issue

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Tv52
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Was posted on this thread, just look previous posts.

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daparky
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Is the dimming issue the only thing wrong? Any other bugs? Has the ghosting issue been fixed?

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jdk2087
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Ghosting was fixed in the last update. If the dimming issue is fixed this tv would be perfect. 

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