Close

What are you looking for?

cancel
Showing results for 
Search instead for 
Did you mean: 

2020 QLED T models (Q80T, Q90T, Q800T, Q900T) HDR game mode brightness / local dimming bug

(Topic created on: 16-07-2020 08:55 AM)
1384 Views
Rauttis
Explorer
Options

I bought a Q80T a couple of days ago and have noticed a really annoying issue when using the tv with the combination of HDR and game mode.

 

I'm fairly certain this is a software bug in the TV since I can reproduce this issue with 100% accuracy, and it happens on the dot at the same moment every time. It's basically on a timer.

 

Basically when the game is displaying a HDR signal and game mode is enabled, exactly after 6 minutes the brightness of the TV suddenly drops by around 20 (50 -> 30). The value of brightness setting doesn't actually change however. Messing with the brightness setting does not restore the brightness to it's original state, but changing the local dimming setting from standard to low and then back to standard does. Switching game mode off and then back on also fixes the issue, but then it happens again EXACTLY after 6 minutes (I've timed this with a stopwatch).

 

Has anyone else experienced this issue? Or can someone maybe test this on their TV to see if you can reproduce it?

 

Exact repro steps on how I can reproduce this 100% of the time on the PS4 Pro:

  1. Set brightness to max (50)
  2. Set local dimming to standard (bug happens on high as well)
  3. Enable game mode
  4. Turn off game motion plus
  5. Turn off intelligent mode and all the brightness related settings in eco settings, as these can influence the brightness level of the tv.
  6. Launch a game that runs in HDR
  7. Start your stopwatch
  8. Do whatever you want in the game or you can also go back to PS4 menus, find a bright scene where you can notice a brightness drop easily
  9. When the stopwatch hits 6 minutes, you should see the TVs brightness suddenly drop by a large amount. By eye the brightness drop seems about equal to dropping the brightness from 50 -> 30 by hand.
  10. Go to picture settings and set local dimming to low (brightness does not change)
  11. Set local dimming back to standard (brightness suddenly jumps to the original level. Brightness can be restored by switching input away and back as well, or by disabling and re-enabling game mode)
  12. And again after EXACTLY 6 minutes the bug again repeats and the brightness drops down again

Some other notes: The PS4 has a screensaver that basically dims the screen if it is idle for a while. This is not the cause of this, this happens even when the console is in active use and the brightness can be restored temporarily by changing the local dimming setting like described above. I have not managed to reproduce this issue with game mode off, so it seems to be related to game mode.

 

Software version: 1304

2,028 REPLIES 2,028
Suriya
Voyager
Options
not only in HDR, dimming happens in both sdr and hdr
0 Likes
jayh89
Helping Hand
Options

Thankfully we have taken it to a mod ( @AntS ) and he has told Samsung about the issue and as far as I know they are working on a fix and they have a link to this thread. So please feel free to detail your issues for them to see! :smiling-face:

0 Likes
snt
First Poster
Options

I was so excited they had enabled the local dimming. Glad I didn't pull the trigger and bought the Q90T. Hope they fix this soon. Such a sad state of affairs.  

0 Likes
Suriya
Voyager
Options
You mean in this new update did they enabled the local dimming on game mode? Can anybody tell what's special about this new update any gaming improvements?
0 Likes
jayh89
Helping Hand
Options

It fixed "inverse ghosting" apparently. Which was an issue with shadows. But it didn't fix this global dimming/brightness issue. That (I hope) is coming soon!

Suriya
Voyager
Options
if they give the firmware source code to some github developers they can fix it in couple of days.

Why it's taking so long even it is their own hardware??
Hope and pray it is not related to hardware issue then they would have to reduce the brightness on game-mode to fix it.
Then finally it would become no use on buying this
0 Likes
RouDeR
Pathfinder
Options

It happens in all modes not only in Game Mode,
Try playing in Movie Mode or Film Maker mode for example in SDR, the screen dims down after a few minutes.

Suriya
Voyager
Options
Which model you have ?
0 Likes
DRACON1C
Explorer
Options
Q9FN's game mode is very annoying too. Local Dimming broken and HDR much worse than Movie Mode. Samsung please fix this issue.
Suriya
Voyager
Options

OMG! people are struggling to get updates for 2018 models and we're all with 2020 models think we have to wait 2more years lol. better to return it quickly and move to lg cx