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Notifications and app icon badges

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I had samsung note 8 before and I have switched to S20 now, the main issue is that when I had the notifications turned off for messaging app on note 8 I could still see the number on icon to remind me that I have got message without the notifications but on S20 I have turned off the notifications but the app icon badges are still on but I cannot see the numbers on app icons. I have tried everything but cannot resolve this issue. I really want to see the app icon badges without notifications turned on

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