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Unpleasant Experience with S21 Ultra

(Topic created on: 24-05-2021 07:18 AM)
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Awkward_Smile7
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I really want to love samsung and their products. I think One UI is very well thought out and is almost equals if not exceeds stock Android in terms of how polished and finished everything feels.

 

But I can't help but notice the obvious flaws that my S21 Ultra has. 

 

I bought this phone to replace my OnePlus 7T because I wanted to experience the "flagship" quality cameras that every YouTuber was talking about. It was a very expensive purchase, a little less than thrice the cost of my 7T. 

 

First impressions, it was bad. The cameras were nowhere near the adjectives that the reviewers used to describe it. It was like I have a different phone because I was not at all impressed by the photo quality and I'm wondering why this is considered "flagship" quality. My OnePlus 7T with Google Camera takes far better pictures with unbelievable detail. I was so disappointed because the whole reason I bought S21U is because of the cameras, and it was worse than my previous phone.

 

Now the reason why I say this:

 

1. S21U takes unnatural, pictures of people even with 0 skin smoothness and Natural selfies enabled. Side by side comparison with my Google Camera powered OnePlus 7T shows how much of an "Oil Painting" look that S21 has. It was like samsung telling me that my face is too much covered with pimples and imperfections, let's hide that hideous pimples and dark circles of yours. It was very disappointing.

 

2. Over-sharpening. Samsung processing tends to oversharpen everything to make it appear as if more details are present. If you zoom in a bit, every detail vanishes and you find artifacts due to over sharpening. In comparison, Google camera on 7T produces pleasing images with excellent noise reduction and preservation of details on zooming in without coming off as oversharpened.

 

Only thing I feel Samsung is good at is on zoom which is not something I or even most others use very often atleast not as often as just point and shoot main and ultra wide lenses. I do agree that video is superior on the Samsung.

 

The next biggest complaint is, Heating issues.

 

I own an Exynos model so I can't speak for Snapdragon variants.

 

When you open the camera app, the phone rockets to 36-38°C no matter the ambient temperature. If you continuously switch between lenses and modes (without taking any pictures by the way) the phone can reach temperature excess of 40°C.

I get anxiety whenever I open the camera app because I know the phone is going to heat up so why even bother? It remains warm to the touch  even on day to day applications even though on paper, the battery temperature is low. There is something to it because, you can feel the warmth on the back glass at all times whereas this never was an issue with my 7T. Samsung did replace my first Ultra deeming it defective but the replacement unit too feels exactly the same. But Samsung denies no such issue exists because to them, a device is defective only when it hits 48°C. My unit reached "only" 46°C. This issue alone bothers me all the time I'm using my device because I can't help but feel how cool my OnePlus is to the touch.

 

Next issue is performance. I get wildly  inconsistent scores on various benchmarks like geekbench, 3d mark. My OnePlus consistently achieves the scores it is supposed to achieve. Whereas my Ultra rarely achieves the average scores and most of the time performs equal to or if not worse than my 7T which is a 2 year old device. ( I get geekbench single core scores like 500-600 consistently with occasional 1000-800. Same story with 3D mark ).

 

Now these benchmarks aren't just synthetic scores. These do translate to real life. On games like genshin impact, I get often stutters and the over-all look and feel of the game's graphics feel poor in comparison to my 855+ powered OnePlus 7T. Though I do agree that S21U has better thermal management on games compared to my 7T but I believe it is solely because of extreme thermal throttling.

 

These issues are really hurting the user experience because the camera and the performance are the key reasons I bought this device when my 7T was perfectly working. Now when the phone fails in my key reasons to buy it, all other features like an amazing display, countless features in OneUI becomes null to me. 

 

I'm really sad to come to this conclusion but I don't think the S21 Ultra is worth it at all. Its an overpriced junk in my opinion and is one of my worst financial decisions I have made. It brought me immense unsatisfaction and stress because as I briefly told previously about giving the phone to Samsung for the analysis, it was not pretty. I made countless calls to customer care and fought with samsung technicians for 1 whole month. So I conclude that because of these reasons I am never purchasing a samsung device again. S21 Ultra is the first and last samsung I am going to own.

 

I'm from India and I'm sharing here because my requests and complaints never get traction for samsung officials to notice and take action. Since the EU and India get the same SoC I thought it was better to post here.

 

Please feel free to inform me if your experience varies from mine. I know this is a very long read but I would really appreciate it if you go through it. Thanks.

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GoanGeek
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Also Have a look at photos I posted under my user name. Some macro shots there.
Check my posts from before.

https://eu.community.samsung.com/t5/galaxy-s21-series/s21-ultra-uk-pictures-aub6/td-p/2907969
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Awkward_Smile7
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***** that's so beautiful! Nice pictures man!

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tinglish
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I tried standing on my head but it made no difference 🤷 ..........maybe I'm not doing it right 🤔
Nipun Sharma
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So you are basically saying not to have expectations from an ultra-premium phone that costs a lakh and above. Not to criticise the camera if it doesn’t meet your expectations, not to bother about heating issues because every phone has some problem or the other. Right? Is this how things should work?

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I had the exact same experience with my S21 Ultra that I got on January 25th, 2021. I have been regularly buying Samsung phones over the years. The camera overprocessing and phone heating issues have been consistent problems that Samsung has refused to rectify.

 

The S10 probably had the most natural processing of all Samsung phones but it too suffered from excessive colour saturation and overexposed highlights. All Samsung flagship phones before that (and I have used the Galaxy S3, S6, S7 edge, S8+, S9+, Note8, and note9) all had Oversharpening and noise reduction cranked to extremes. If there is anyone who knows photography at Samsung they should know that mixing over-sharpening and noise reduction is like mixing oil and water. The result is going to be anything but perfect. The S21 ultra, in my experience with it, had image processing from a Samsung mid range phone from 2015. There was so much over-sharpening and weird digital grain that I couldn’t believe that this phone was getting such rave reviews. The oil painting effect is very evident upon zooming into photos. The selfies that I took on the standard 12 MP resolution was so oversharpened that my face looked extremely weird. The 40 MP produced much more natural looking results. it is so frustrating to see that Samsung is able to produce some natural looking photos on the one hand but their image processing is so inconsistent with their processed look. If only Samsung would let its own image processing get out of the way and let the photos naturally shine, it would be so much better. They have the hardware, but their software processing ruins the images.

Samsung likes to make their images look extremely sharp and clean on their high-resolution AMOLED displays. But this is probably with the intention of making their phones look good in showrooms. In real world use, people who like natural image processing, Samsung is just not the phone to get. I have learnt it the hard way. I have been hopeful every year that Samsung would do something to rectify their image processing but to no avail.

Nipun Sharma
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these images are just way too compressed to notice any image processing issues, to be honest.

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Awkward_Smile7
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Took the words right out of mouth. Exactly the same issues that you put into words so nicely. I wish they improve with updates. Really disappointed with the S21 Ultra.

Shawn
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I agree with you, especially on the photo comments. The Over-sharpening, Samsung processing leaves the images worse than a phone I am replacing which is about 5 years older. So disappointing compared to what was being sold as a great image maker.

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Shawn
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Fully agree. The harsh edges on photos kills what should be a great shot. So much money spent and Samsung should at least give some option to remove their processing mess. Too much money spent for so much stress.

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