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HW-K650 and Two R1 Wirelss Speakers in 5.1 With KS7000 TV

(Topic created on: 27-04-2017 09:31 PM)
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When using the K650 sound bar and two R1 Wireless speakers in surround sound mode over wifi with the latest firmware, The quailty of the sound K650 drops, sounds very muddy. As soon as you use the sound bar on it own, the sound bar improves. this is happening for a quite a few users.

 

can you help.

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Robbienobs
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Have a look here lol........ I am Mr Hickey in point 5 and Rob in other sections............. I can't find the video at the moment but will eventually
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Robbienobs
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Curry's even offered to pay me not to appear on Watchdog and also choose a top of the line laptop from their shop......... I turned this down....... Appeared on the programme and then asked for a refund.
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Neilwales
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Mr.Hickey or Rob!! Keep up the pressure on behalf of us all. From me personally, I appreciate all your efforts in trying for a successful resolution. One I think we will achieve. Eventually!!
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@Robbienobs wrote:

I habe sent this to samsung in response to their email regarding CEO contact for what it's worth:

 

Dear Kirsty,

Thanks for your email regarding the direction of my correspondence; unfortunately the issue I have is that when I concentrate my efforts on communication through the correct channels, it has finally come to nothing but denial from Samsung that any issues remain,and that basically its good enough.

I am still hoping your senior management team see that there needs to be some additional investment in getting the firmware where it should be, and show its customers some real commitment to quality with resolving these faults.

I am in the process of communicating with the BBC's Watchdog programme including all of the email addresses of other who will corroborate the issues and Samsung's handling of the faults with their firmware updates. I would rather not spend additional time in doing this as I have spent hours upon hours writing, testing and posting to attempt to get a fix.

I have also found that when I purchased the Samsung soundbar and R1's, this was first advertised this as fully wifi capable with the tv that I have (2016 K Series), but now the way the product is advertised by samsung has been amended; I have screen shots from the Samsung products pages as evidence of this from last year. Samsung have quiet cleverly added the generic term "Cable connection required from Soundbar to TV to receive 5.1 surround sound".

This is due to be communicated to Trading Standards tomorrow to include this change in advertising and also the issue that Samsung appear to want to not include the firmware as part of the product, resulting in what can only been viewed as a breach of Samsung's Warrantee that clearly states you will either repair or replace the faulty product.

Samsung are basically now just arguing symantics as no matter who views the evidence in hand, the product is obviously faulty and not operating as advertised at the time of purchase; the firmware is clearly part of the product itself and as such must be included in the warranty. Furthermore your service partners confirmed the issues are present and agreed fully that it was not operating as it should, only for Samsung to then change this guys report to suit their own ends; this end would be to constantly deny that the product is faulty.

I will say that the only part of this whole episode I am vaguely happy with is your communications, albeit limited by input from the various teams involved (and senior management I would imagine).

Your own website states that "Quality Assurance" will "Surpass all Expectations".
"Samsung ensures the consistent delivery of excellence based on an effective quality management system that guarantees our products and services, beyond customer expectations".

I repeat "beyond customer expectations" not good enough for Samsung!

Regards,
 
Go to this link for quality statements
 

You should also point out that the user manual for the R1's clearly states (page 13 I think) that when setting up a 5.1 Wi-Fi system a cable is required for non-Samsung Tv's or pre 2016 Samsung models.   

 

Regards

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Robbienobs
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Thanks Nick0, I will send another email and add this point. I will also add this to trading standard and watchdog communications.

Also I have noticed that Which also investigate this type of this so will approach them also.

I am hoping to strike a chord with reminding them of their own quality statements.
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Kevlarr
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Samsung US are doing a BOGOF on the R1 speaker.

"Exclusive to Samsung.com:Buy one Radiant360 R1 speaker, and get a second speaker for FREE! Offer available while supplies last."

 

http://www.samsung.com/us/audio/wireless-speakers/home/radiant360-r1-wi-fi-bluetooth-speaker-wam1500...

 

Stock dumping?

 

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Robbienobs
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Saves burning them I suppose. 

 

 

Having said that I think this issue affects all the radiant speaker versions from others posts. 

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DreamTallStart
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Your resolve and determination to drive this forward in the face of adversity and to get what you paid for and what was advertised is beyond compare Robbienobbs. You're an example to all of us and others, never to give up. Your post's are always professional and well considered, stating the facts and show respect for all parties included in this. I for one feel privileged to have you in everyone's corner on this and I would like to thank you personally for that. Hopefully Samsung will eventually see sense and come good on their product advertising. 

 

When I play the complete surround system (my Hw-k650 soundbar, sub and R1s)  in 5.1 through my multiroom app, via my Samsung phone or IPad via a streaming service such as Deezer (with no wires) the sound is simply amazing, all my friends are blown away with the quality. It makes me think the problem must be coming from the TV (I have an 2016, KS 8000 series) as the hardware and firmware all works when connected via other devices through the multiroom app, some of which are not even Samsung products. 

 

The manager at Curry's where I purchased the equipment is fully aware of this problem. I've kept him up to date with the problems and progress from the start (or lack of through this forum). I've been offered a refund in full at any point towards other equipment in the shop when our if I decide to return the equipment. At the moment I'm holding off even though I'm sick of this debacle. So why don't I? It's due to the efforts of everyone on this forum and especially to you Robbienobbs. 

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Robbienobs
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Hi DreamTallStart

 

Many thanks for your kind words it's very much appreciated. 

 

I too am very glad for others support and in particular for the temp workaround, as without this it would have been much worse to bear over these months. 

 

It's good to hear curry's are supporting you but that really puts samsung to shame in my mind. 

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