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iPlayer HLG/UHD HDR on Samsung’s J and K Series TVs

Voyager

Great post Dr Tickly, that’s a very helpful explanation of the forthcoming changes. 

Voyager

Please correct me if I misunderstood . Does it mean on SKY q without EDID fix we will receive 4K SDR?

 

if that’s the case why can’t BBC I player do this. Even if it is not HDR 4K , 4K SDR better than nothing. 

 

 

Voyager

Hi fellas I have seen a few posts mentioning hdr10

 

live broadcasts in 4k hdr are typical filmed using Sony cameras which use a different proprietary form of hdr, called s-log I think, as TastyBurger666 states for hdr10  they will have a production truck with something like this https://www.proav.co.uk/sony-hdrc-4000-hdr-production-converter-unit which can convert s log to hdr10. There willl either be another truck converting to hlg or the bbc will receiving the s-log and doing the conversion themselves (which is possible given the limited formats available in the trial) 

 

edit... this is all specific to the World Cup

 

That sky document mentions hlg10 I didn’t even know that was a thing tbh but I would be surprised if they had hdr10 capable production trucks on site every week for every epl game, the costs couldn’t be justified

 

edit... Sky and BBC will be using cameras which are capable of outputting both HLG (2100) and SDR (709) which is another reason HDR10 is likely to be unavailable. details of the capture method is in the royal wedding article https://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2018-05-ultra-high-definition-dynamic-range-royal-wedding-uhd-hdr

 

cheers

Voyager

@Jay108 wrote:

Please correct me if I misunderstood . Does it mean on SKY q without EDID fix we will receive 4K SDR?

 

if that’s the case why can’t BBC I player do this. Even if it is not HDR 4K , 4K SDR better than nothing. 

 

 


Without rehashing the thread too much, the reason iplayer isnt working on KS sets is down to the delivery of the content and not the content itself. But yes HLG is backwards compatible so you would receive SDR 4k from the same stream that others will receive HLG

 

cheers

Voyager

Mr T

 

I am a little confused now.  So when Sky start broadcasting in HDR/HLG, will my KS set receive HDR/HLG or are we still going to need a HD Fury, if Samsung don't release an EDID fix?

Navigator

@rozel wrote:

Mr T

 

I am a little confused now.  So when Sky start broadcasting in HDR/HLG, will my KS set receive HDR/HLG or are we still going to need a HD Fury, if Samsung don't release an EDID fix?


Yes if Samsung don't fix the EDID you will only receive SDR unless you use an HD fury to spoof the EDID.

Hotshot

@rozel wrote:

Mr T

 

I am a little confused now.  So when Sky start broadcasting in HDR/HLG, will my KS set receive HDR/HLG or are we still going to need a HD Fury, if Samsung don't release an EDID fix?


Read to me our ks will need the edid fix which looks unlikely or the fury. 

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Voyager

Thanks.  It is what I thought - I just got confused with his post, not sure what that was all abour, sorry.

Voyager

@chopples123 wrote:

@Jay108 wrote:

Please correct me if I misunderstood . Does it mean on SKY q without EDID fix we will receive 4K SDR?

 

if that’s the case why can’t BBC I player do this. Even if it is not HDR 4K , 4K SDR better than nothing. 

 

 


Without rehashing the thread too much, the reason iplayer isnt working on KS sets is down to the delivery of the content and not the content itself. But yes HLG is backwards compatible so you would receive SDR 4k from the same stream that others will receive HLG

 

cheers


@chopples123  thanks for clarifying this.  But wwill BBC I player provide a way for us to watch 4K SDR ? 

Voyager

@Jay108 no sorry mate as the DRM is incompatible. If you have a virgin V6 box then you will have access to the trial in 4k SDR

 

cheers

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