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iPlayer HLG/UHD HDR on Samsung’s J and K Series TVs

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@Saverio571 wrote:

But you tried with an external player (not iplayer BBC) on HDMI? 


Yes a Shield TV android box on HDMI. Using VLC player on it, ang kodi, it will play HDR files and the TV switches to HDR mode. When I played the HLG files there was no switching to HDR mode, there for the TV does play HLG.

Paul

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But Shirley tv is HLG compatible?

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But Shield Tv have HDMI 2.0b port? Shield Tv has compatible with HLG?

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@Saverio571 wrote:

But Shirley tv is HLG compatible?


Only the 2017 and above  Samsung TV's are HEVC HLG compatible, Samsung have not updated their earlier models, that is what this thread is all about.

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HLG is backward compatible so you may be getting 4K without HDR. In any case let’s not loose sight this thread is about Samsung not providing firmware to allow UHD BBC iPlayer.
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It is not real. My Ks9000 read files in HLG mode on USB and on broadcast (hotbird 4K1). The questione is if the support is present also in HDMI.

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Latest What HI FI say's this,

 

All of Samsung’s 2017 4K TVs have HDR10+ support built in, while a firmware update will make it available to existing 2016 4K TVs. Predictably, the company's 2018 line-up of TVs will support the format, too. 

 

And also this about HLG,

 

Hybrid Log Gamma (HLG) is potentially the most important HDR format of all. Why? Because it's going to be used with TV broadcasts.

The result of a joint research project between the BBC and Japanese broadcaster NHK, HLG is designed to deliver a more convenient HDR solution for the broadcast world.

It takes standard dynamic range and high dynamic range images and combines them into one feed, with HLG-compatible 4K TVs able to decode and show HDR images in all their glory.

Most big-name manufacturers confirmed HLG-ready sets for 2017, with Samsung, Sony and LG also announcing that their 2016 HDR TVs will receive HLG support via a firmware update. Panasonic is also offering the same for select top-tier 2016 models, too. With the framework in place, all we needed was some content...

And it came in the form of Blue Planet II - released in full 4K and HLG on BBC iPlayer for just 30 days in late 2017 (it expired mid-January 2018). While BBC had previously shown a clip of Planet Earth II in 4K HLG, the full series release of seven-episode Blue Planet II showed that HLG not only worked, but it looks spectacular.

The only potential issues are the different variations of HDR and the need to ensure your TV is future-proofed for when the different versions go mainstream. At the moment, we'd ensure yours has HDR10 and Hybrid Log Gamma as the bare minimum. We were hoping the situation would become more stable by CES 2018, but it seems there's a bubbling format war between HDR10+ vs Dolby Vision.

 

Seems Samsung have not updated What HI FI, and if anyone is in contact with What Hi Fi it might be useful to have a word.

Paul

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@paul1111 wrote:

Latest What HI FI say's this,

 

All of Samsung’s 2017 4K TVs have HDR10+ support built in, while a firmware update will make it available to existing 2016 4K TVs. Predictably, the company's 2018 line-up of TVs will support the format, too. 

 

And also this about HLG,

 

Hybrid Log Gamma (HLG) is potentially the most important HDR format of all. Why? Because it's going to be used with TV broadcasts.

The result of a joint research project between the BBC and Japanese broadcaster NHK, HLG is designed to deliver a more convenient HDR solution for the broadcast world.

It takes standard dynamic range and high dynamic range images and combines them into one feed, with HLG-compatible 4K TVs able to decode and show HDR images in all their glory.

Most big-name manufacturers confirmed HLG-ready sets for 2017, with Samsung, Sony and LG also announcing that their 2016 HDR TVs will receive HLG support via a firmware update. Panasonic is also offering the same for select top-tier 2016 models, too. With the framework in place, all we needed was some content...

And it came in the form of Blue Planet II - released in full 4K and HLG on BBC iPlayer for just 30 days in late 2017 (it expired mid-January 2018). While BBC had previously shown a clip of Planet Earth II in 4K HLG, the full series release of seven-episode Blue Planet II showed that HLG not only worked, but it looks spectacular.

The only potential issues are the different variations of HDR and the need to ensure your TV is future-proofed for when the different versions go mainstream. At the moment, we'd ensure yours has HDR10 and Hybrid Log Gamma as the bare minimum. We were hoping the situation would become more stable by CES 2018, but it seems there's a bubbling format war between HDR10+ vs Dolby Vision.

 

Seems Samsung have not updated What HI FI, and if anyone is in contact with What Hi Fi it might be useful to have a word.

Paul


I have got in touch with what hifi and they are looking into it.

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@daleski75 wrote:

@paul1111 wrote:

Latest What HI FI say's this,

 

All of Samsung’s 2017 4K TVs have HDR10+ support built in, while a firmware update will make it available to existing 2016 4K TVs. Predictably, the company's 2018 line-up of TVs will support the format, too. 

 

And also this about HLG,

 

Hybrid Log Gamma (HLG) is potentially the most important HDR format of all. Why? Because it's going to be used with TV broadcasts.

The result of a joint research project between the BBC and Japanese broadcaster NHK, HLG is designed to deliver a more convenient HDR solution for the broadcast world.

It takes standard dynamic range and high dynamic range images and combines them into one feed, with HLG-compatible 4K TVs able to decode and show HDR images in all their glory.

Most big-name manufacturers confirmed HLG-ready sets for 2017, with Samsung, Sony and LG also announcing that their 2016 HDR TVs will receive HLG support via a firmware update. Panasonic is also offering the same for select top-tier 2016 models, too. With the framework in place, all we needed was some content...

And it came in the form of Blue Planet II - released in full 4K and HLG on BBC iPlayer for just 30 days in late 2017 (it expired mid-January 2018). While BBC had previously shown a clip of Planet Earth II in 4K HLG, the full series release of seven-episode Blue Planet II showed that HLG not only worked, but it looks spectacular.

The only potential issues are the different variations of HDR and the need to ensure your TV is future-proofed for when the different versions go mainstream. At the moment, we'd ensure yours has HDR10 and Hybrid Log Gamma as the bare minimum. We were hoping the situation would become more stable by CES 2018, but it seems there's a bubbling format war between HDR10+ vs Dolby Vision.

 

Seems Samsung have not updated What HI FI, and if anyone is in contact with What Hi Fi it might be useful to have a word.

Paul


I have got in touch with what hifi and they are looking into it.


Either What Hi FI have not even looked at this thread or checked their facts, or Samsamg are telling porkies again!

Paul.

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@paul1111 wrote:

@daleski75 wrote:

@paul1111 wrote:

Latest What HI FI say's this,

 

All of Samsung’s 2017 4K TVs have HDR10+ support built in, while a firmware update will make it available to existing 2016 4K TVs. Predictably, the company's 2018 line-up of TVs will support the format, too. 

 

And also this about HLG,

 

Hybrid Log Gamma (HLG) is potentially the most important HDR format of all. Why? Because it's going to be used with TV broadcasts.

The result of a joint research project between the BBC and Japanese broadcaster NHK, HLG is designed to deliver a more convenient HDR solution for the broadcast world.

It takes standard dynamic range and high dynamic range images and combines them into one feed, with HLG-compatible 4K TVs able to decode and show HDR images in all their glory.

Most big-name manufacturers confirmed HLG-ready sets for 2017, with Samsung, Sony and LG also announcing that their 2016 HDR TVs will receive HLG support via a firmware update. Panasonic is also offering the same for select top-tier 2016 models, too. With the framework in place, all we needed was some content...

And it came in the form of Blue Planet II - released in full 4K and HLG on BBC iPlayer for just 30 days in late 2017 (it expired mid-January 2018). While BBC had previously shown a clip of Planet Earth II in 4K HLG, the full series release of seven-episode Blue Planet II showed that HLG not only worked, but it looks spectacular.

The only potential issues are the different variations of HDR and the need to ensure your TV is future-proofed for when the different versions go mainstream. At the moment, we'd ensure yours has HDR10 and Hybrid Log Gamma as the bare minimum. We were hoping the situation would become more stable by CES 2018, but it seems there's a bubbling format war between HDR10+ vs Dolby Vision.

 

Seems Samsung have not updated What HI FI, and if anyone is in contact with What Hi Fi it might be useful to have a word.

Paul


I have got in touch with what hifi and they are looking into it.


Either What Hi FI have not even looked at this thread or checked their facts, or Samsamg are telling porkies again!

Paul.


They replied to me about 4 hours ago so we may not see anything till the weekend or later.

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