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iPlayer HLG/UHD HDR on Samsung’s J and K Series TVs

(Topic created on: 05-07-2019 02:07 PM)
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ewanstancarr
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So, of the nigh on 400 TVs supported in BBC iplayer for the Blue Planet II  HLG episodes none are from Samsung. Oh joy. 

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Moderator edit: Original thread title was "Blue Planet 2 HLG - No Samsung". With the OP's permission, the title was changed on 12/03/2018 to accurately reflect the dominant theme of the thread as it has progressed. If the reader would like to know more about the HLG format, please check out the BBC's page and FAQ's on it here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/projects/high-dynamic-range Thank you, AntS.

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leopard
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@Jay108 wrote:
I did not see any with UHD . May be there were none. Was nadal Match in UHD?

Yes, it was. Only centre court matches will be on UHD

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Jay108
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Very strange because I checked view all Wimbledon and did not see nadal match in UHD? Are you watching with ROku streaming stick? My tv is on latest updated software 1240. Is yours the same?

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@Jay108 wrote:

Very strange because I checked view all Wimbledon and did not see nadal match in UHD? Are you watching with ROku streaming stick? My tv is on latest updated software 1240. Is yours the same?


On Roku streaking stick+. This one https://www.argos.co.uk/product/7397314. 

 

it will not work on the normal stick.

 

 Yes, had 1239 earlier and it worked on that. Now on 1240 and it works fine on that as well

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Jay108
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I have the same Roku stick as you. So it should have worked for me too. May be I will try again tomorrow. Thanks for your help. 

rozel
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I'm watching using the Roku Streaming Stick + and as the man said you have to select "view all Wimbledon" and the current match on the Centre Court will be clearly marked "UHD" and there will be an actual  "UHD" watermark in the top right of the viewing screen.

 

My experience so far is excellent, although on the first day (Monday) I had issues "getting in", which I believe were down to the BBC.  Since then the quality on my KS9500 has been superb - just wish coverage could be on all courts - switching to vanilla HD looks bad in comparison :smiling-face:

 

I have a few of questions though: -

 

1.  The "washed-out" effect has been well documented on KS sets (there maybe other TVs affected too), which can be solved by switching your set to another HDMI input and then switching back.  I am still having to do this.  Initially the colours are slightly (not as bad as for the World Cup last year) washed out but by quickly turning my Yamaha receiver (as my Roku is plugged into that) off then back on, solves this issue - anyone else noticing this?  I thought firmware 1239.1 sorted this but it seems it is still there (I'm actually using firmware 1240 - just a re-numbering to bring firmware 1233 into line).

 

2.  From what has been said, this year to watch in UHD HDR you need about 40mbs Wifi speed.  Whilst I have good broadband, to be honest, the max I can get through Wifi is about 35mbps but can get 60 easily via Ethernet.  So I'm unsure if I'm actually getting UHD HDR or HD HDR.  I know I'm getting HDR from my Roku but how can I check which resolution is being received?  From what I understand the resolution as displayed via the Samsung's "Info" button is set to UHD resolution if you have set the HDMI input accordingly.  But this doesn't change depending on the actual signal being received.  When I'm viewing YouTube videos, there is "Stats for nerds" and in the Roku's Network settings somewhere, you can actually check the bandwidth capability but I'd like to know via a simple button press what is actually being received.  Does anyone else have this issue - the reason I ask is last years BBC trials didn't reqire such a high bandwidth AFAIK. 

 

3.  Roku do not supply in the UK an Ethernet ported streaming box with iPlayer capability.  So other than a Virgin STB (I do not subscribe) and until Sky gets its fingers out, I am bound to ask does anyone know if there is an Ethernet ported Streaming Box available here in the UK, capable of streaming BBC iPlayer programs in HLG?

 

3. EDIT: -  I have just seen this.....................   https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B079QB9BD7/ref=ods_cc_smp_mn   it can be used with an Amazon Ethernet adapter and it is a "supported device" as listed by the BBC  https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/help/latest-news/wimbledon-2019-uhd#supported  -  has anyone tried a Fire TV Stick 4K ?  Think I'm going to try one hihi

 

Thanks

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@rozel - your edit beat me to it!  I was going to suggest the Firestick.  Not got one so can't answer specifics but worth looking into.  I used to have the Roku and never experienced the washed out colours some people complained of.  I have since sold it as I have a Virgin V6 so use the iPlayer on that.

 

The BBC help page at https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/help/latest-news/wimbledon-2019-uhd says

  1. A high-speed internet connection of at least 20Mbit/s for 2560 pixel Ultra HD or 40Mbit/s for the full 3840 pixel Ultra HD experience. It's recommended that a wired connection from the TV to the home router is used for the most consistent performance. 

So as long as you can get 20 you will get greater than standard HD - and of course HLG!

rozel
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Ahh so it's not just HD HDR or UHD HDR then?  You mean the actual resolution depends on your broadband throughput?

 

That seems to me to stupid if you have no way of checking, other than your eyes of course :smiling-face:

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Jay108
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I am on iplayer through Roku streaming stick which is suppose to support UHD on SK model. I still can’t see any Live matches in UDH.  Am I doing something wrong? Is there some settings on Roku I need to configure? 

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blenky
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opening screen - select 'View all of Wimbledon'opening screen - select 'View all of Wimbledon'Scroll across or down to find UHD (Centre Court)Scroll across or down to find UHD (Centre Court)Will have UHD logoWill have UHD logo

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Wally12
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I've got a KS7000 . I've just moved from 1239 to 1240 and everything is still fine.

 

Watching Wimbledon in UHD via Roku + and working fine apart from the need

to toggle from one HDMI source back onto Roku + HDMI source to move from "washed out"

look to good colour. I was hoping that might have been fixed.

 

Still looking forward to Sky Q going HDR as that is my main viewing source.