05-12-2017 06:16 AM - last edited 12-03-2018 12:46 PM by AntS ) in
So, of the nigh on 400 TVs supported in BBC iplayer for the Blue Planet II HLG episodes none are from Samsung. Oh joy.
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Moderator edit: Original thread title was "Blue Planet 2 HLG - No Samsung". With the OP's permission, the title was changed on 12/03/2018 to accurately reflect the dominant theme of the thread as it has progressed. If the reader would like to know more about the HLG format, please check out the BBC's page and FAQ's on it here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/projects/high-dynamic-range Thank you, AntS.
09-06-2018 10:23 AM
Great post Dr Tickly, that’s a very helpful explanation of the forthcoming changes.
09-06-2018 10:39 AM
Please correct me if I misunderstood . Does it mean on SKY q without EDID fix we will receive 4K SDR?
if that’s the case why can’t BBC I player do this. Even if it is not HDR 4K , 4K SDR better than nothing.
09-06-2018 10:45 AM - last edited 09-06-2018 11:20 AM
Hi fellas I have seen a few posts mentioning hdr10
live broadcasts in 4k hdr are typical filmed using Sony cameras which use a different proprietary form of hdr, called s-log I think, as TastyBurger666 states for hdr10 they will have a production truck with something like this https://www.proav.co.uk/sony-hdrc-4000-hdr-production-converter-unit which can convert s log to hdr10. There willl either be another truck converting to hlg or the bbc will receiving the s-log and doing the conversion themselves (which is possible given the limited formats available in the trial)
edit... this is all specific to the World Cup
That sky document mentions hlg10 I didn’t even know that was a thing tbh but I would be surprised if they had hdr10 capable production trucks on site every week for every epl game, the costs couldn’t be justified
edit... Sky and BBC will be using cameras which are capable of outputting both HLG (2100) and SDR (709) which is another reason HDR10 is likely to be unavailable. details of the capture method is in the royal wedding article https://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2018-05-ultra-high-definition-dynamic-range-royal-wedding-uhd-hdr
cheers
09-06-2018 10:50 AM
@Jay108 wrote:Please correct me if I misunderstood . Does it mean on SKY q without EDID fix we will receive 4K SDR?
if that’s the case why can’t BBC I player do this. Even if it is not HDR 4K , 4K SDR better than nothing.
Without rehashing the thread too much, the reason iplayer isnt working on KS sets is down to the delivery of the content and not the content itself. But yes HLG is backwards compatible so you would receive SDR 4k from the same stream that others will receive HLG
cheers
09-06-2018 11:07 AM
Mr T
I am a little confused now. So when Sky start broadcasting in HDR/HLG, will my KS set receive HDR/HLG or are we still going to need a HD Fury, if Samsung don't release an EDID fix?
09-06-2018 11:09 AM
@rozel wrote:Mr T
I am a little confused now. So when Sky start broadcasting in HDR/HLG, will my KS set receive HDR/HLG or are we still going to need a HD Fury, if Samsung don't release an EDID fix?
Yes if Samsung don't fix the EDID you will only receive SDR unless you use an HD fury to spoof the EDID.
09-06-2018 11:10 AM
@rozel wrote:Mr T
I am a little confused now. So when Sky start broadcasting in HDR/HLG, will my KS set receive HDR/HLG or are we still going to need a HD Fury, if Samsung don't release an EDID fix?
Read to me our ks will need the edid fix which looks unlikely or the fury.
09-06-2018 11:17 AM
Thanks. It is what I thought - I just got confused with his post, not sure what that was all abour, sorry.
09-06-2018 11:18 AM
@chopples123 wrote:
@Jay108 wrote:Please correct me if I misunderstood . Does it mean on SKY q without EDID fix we will receive 4K SDR?
if that’s the case why can’t BBC I player do this. Even if it is not HDR 4K , 4K SDR better than nothing.
Without rehashing the thread too much, the reason iplayer isnt working on KS sets is down to the delivery of the content and not the content itself. But yes HLG is backwards compatible so you would receive SDR 4k from the same stream that others will receive HLG
cheers
@chopples123 thanks for clarifying this. But wwill BBC I player provide a way for us to watch 4K SDR ?
09-06-2018 11:22 AM
@Jay108 no sorry mate as the DRM is incompatible. If you have a virgin V6 box then you will have access to the trial in 4k SDR
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