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HW-K650 and Two R1 Wirelss Speakers in 5.1 With KS7000 TV

Apprentice

Hi Guys,

 

i have been been keeping tabs on this discussion, great work from all and very helpful. I took my two r7's back after seeing how long this has been going on but may take the plunge again now it's fixed.

 

I'm by no means an expert when it comes to audio but as a network engineer I do know routers to some extent, just wanted to share a bit of advice for everyone although I'm sure most of you are aware. When it comes to setups like this it's always best to hardcode your ip addresses on the router, you can do this by reserving the iP addresses on the router based on the devices MAC address. Every device that connects to a network will have its own unique MAC address. If you don't reserve them then they will pick up an up address dynamically and renew that address every 30 days.  My friend has an expensive media centre setup and every 30 days his system would go down, this was the reason. 

 

I have a virgin router, I can see all the devices connected to it when I login to it and I can reserve the addresses easily enough so only that device can use that address. 

 

Hope this helps.

Pathfinder

I had this about a week ago. Had some weird ip conflict and had to reset the router to factory but all has been fine since. 

 

I reset all speakers first and then reconneofresh

 

I am on BT smart hub 

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Explorer

And is your TV connected via the wifi to the same channel or Ethernet ?

 

I have had simmilar problems to this in the past and the solution for me (after discussing it at length with Samsung) was to install a Samsung WAM250 Hub - this creates its own dedicated static network for the soundbar and speakers and works a treat.  

£30 from Richer Sounds - money well spent!

Apprentice

Hi. I have mentioned this earlier, but according to Samsung, only channel 36 to 48 is supported when using 5Ghz with an external router, there is no such limit when using 2.4Ghz.

 

I had this issue earlier and everything started working on 5Ghz when I switched to a channel within the supported range.

On the other hand i have 2 times experienced wierd drop outs of my R1 spekers, they just wen away from my radar, I could not see them in my Multiroom app, the tv detected them but could not use them and no way of restarting could get them up and running again, 

the only solution for me was to make a factory reset on them (holding down + and - at the same time ~5 sec).

Re add them as new speakers and all was fine.

Apprentice

I must raise a question here. After the upgrade of firmware, thus getting great sound and all that, I experience issues with the grouping of my speakers when including my Spotify app (on my phone)

If i create a surround setting for my TV, the TV will connect when turned on.
If I turn OFF the tv, the speakers will revert to three different devices (K650 + R1 +R1)
I can use them (individually) as external speakers from my Spotify app, and even group them using the grouping feature in my multiroom app.
Spotify the detects this new group and I can send my sound using all three speakers at the same time.
BUT if I turn on my tv it will break the group and use them as Surround group, if I then turn of my TV they will show up as tree individual speakers again..

I can swear that before the update i could use Spotify and detect the surround config as one single unit.

I would love to be able to use my system for both tv surround and when the tv is turned off, still use the group as Spotify speakers, without the need to recreate the grouping or surround setup every time.
Any ideas?

Apprentice

Have you tried switching to tv speaker before turning off tv? 

I have a similar problem where my bluray player has problems creating a surround setup unless I select tv speaker on tvs audio settings.

First Poster

Well, I have chaned the channel to 40 and I can now connect it. But.

 

Now the sound really sucks. The volume problem is back, well more ö less, the ***** system regroup it self and the sound is behind. I'm gonna take a break and spend a couple of hours with the kids now and just hope some magic just fixes this *****. 

Explorer

Hi Kilo - one step forward...

 

Dont know if it is related but after the firmware update my volume levels still needed to be reset in the TVs Wireless Speaker Management before they worked properly - just moving one of the sliders and saving kicked the whole thing into action and it has worked fine since...

Apprentice

@scott wrote:

Have you tried switching to tv speaker before turning off tv? 

I have a similar problem where my bluray player has problems creating a surround setup unless I select tv speaker on tvs audio settings.


 

Yes, doing this will ungroup the speakers. :(
Selecting my soundbar as sound output will regroup them again.

So I see the following behavior.

1. Tv OFF, Samsung Multiroom App ON.
Speakers are ungrouped:
K650
R1 Left
R1 Right
Spotify show them as three separate speakers

I add them in a surround configuration using the Multiroom app.

2. I turn the TV ON, the TV uses them as surround (app displays Soundbar K650(5CH) R1 Left & R1 Right in Surround mode.
Spotify display the K650 Soundbar but NOT the R1 left and R1 Right as available devices

3. I turn the TV OFF, In the Samsung Multiroom app the speakers are Ungrouped
Spotify show all three speakers as available devices.

4. I turn the TV ON again, the TV uses them as surround (app displays Soundbar K650(5CH) R1 Left & R1 Right in Surround mode.
Spotify display the K650 Soundbar but NOT the R1 left and R1 Right as available devices

5. Keeping the TV ON, i select TV speakers as sound output
In the Samsung multiroom app the speakers are ungrouped and Spotify show all three speakers as available devices.

6. I turn the TV OFF, now i use Samsung multiroom app and create a GROUP, using all three speakers (Not surround setting).
I name the group and save.
In Spotify I see the GROUP as available device, if i connect and play sound comes from all three speakers

7. I turn the TV ON, In the multiroom app, the Group changes to Surround and we are back to Step 2.
Spotify only displays Soundbar K650 as available device (not the R1 speakers).

8. I turn the tv OFF, In the multiroom app, the speakers are UNGROUPED, reverting to 3 separate devices in Spotify once again. the group created in step 6 is lost never to appear again.


I am pretty sure that the above did NOT happen before the update.
could anyone confirm my steps, do you see the same behavior??

 

 

Apprentice

Sound behind?
Are you sure you are using wifi? Sound out of sync was common using Optical cable?
Just want to verify.
There is a sync setting in the sound options where you can compensatefor this. (down to 0).

 

 

Glad midsommar!

 

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