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HW-K650 and Two R1 Wirelss Speakers in 5.1 With KS7000 TV

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Thank you for your efforts! I'm looking at MS 650 specs, and it turns out that Samsung is back with the swa9000 for rear surround (the set that was used with k550) .

 

It's a completely different tech, a wireless amplifier with 2 speaker that aren't wireless. From what I remember you connect them to the soundbar the same way you connect the subwoofer to hw k650, so you don't even need a Multiroom app for that. 

 

Those really aren't good news for us, because it means samsung has abandoned surround by Multiroom tech completely. 

 

 

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@Peejay84 wrote:

Thank you for your efforts! I'm looking at MS 650 specs, and it turns out that Samsung is back with the swa9000 for rear surround (the set that was used with k550) .

 

It's a completely different tech, a wireless amplifier with 2 speaker that aren't wireless. From what I remember you connect them to the soundbar the same way you connect the subwoofer to hw k650, so you don't even need a Multiroom app for that. 

 

Those really aren't good news for us, because it means samsung has abandoned surround by Multiroom tech completely. 

 

 


I researched the SWA8000 kit before going for the R1's and they were available for around £99 but the HW-K650 soundbar is not listed as being compatible with the SWA8000S kit.  Notably, the manual for the new SWA9000's does not state that HW-K650 is compatible either.  So are these now compatible?  I  see Curry's have them for £179.

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I think they were called swa 8000 last year, and yeah they weren't compatible with k650. 

swa 9000 look exactly the same though, and on samsung site it says they are only compatible with Soundbar+ models, so MS 650 and MS 6500.

Ive read somewhere they are going to also release a Subwoofer+ (lol) thingy that you can plug to soundbar+ models as they don't really cover LFE channel. 

 

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Apologies, I realised they were the 8000's and was in the process of editing while you were posting a reply.
Navigator

It's ok to be honest I really don't want to buy some crappy new speakers (with 3 visible cables instead of 2) to cover rear channels, I want my R3s to work as they were advertised. Those R3s are really the best thing about whole setup, the sound is wonderful in stereo mode and I can play HiFi music directly from Tidal. I'd rather change the soundbar to that new one to make it all work, but since it looks like it isn't supporting multiroom surround anymore I'm stuck with k650. 

 

Another thing is that Samsung is going to release a DTS 5.1 update to all their new soundbars (they are currently only supporting 2.0) and some of the last year ones. I really hope we will get it as well. 

 

Explorer

I really do hope you are correct about that DTS. It makes no sense that even their highest end with Atmos, cannot do DTS 5.1. I also agree about the Radiant speakers in that they sound really good and are excellent on their own. I use mine for when I host parties, and love that I can play one source through them all. 

Apprentice

I get 5.1 DTS when I play DTS blurays.

I have to select pcm pcm. Or pcm DTS. Cable box everything is Dolby 5.1 so I use bitstream pcm. 

My system seems to be working as it should but I have to move the sound bar slider all the way down and the r1s all the way up. 

 

Pathfinder

Hi all, 

 

Latest from Samsung below; looks like they want me to stop sending emails to their CEO's. I have removed email addresses from the post to avoid having this deleted by Moderators. 

 

Dear Mr H*****y, thank you for your email. I have requested a further update from the senior management team and of course will return to you as soon as this is received.

 

I note that you have directed a further email to both ***@samsung.com and ***@sea.samsung.com. I must confirm that the first email address is not an escalation point – while we recognise that several non-Samsung websites have  this listed as such – and the second address is directed to the Samsung USA subsidiary, who redirect to our department here.

 

I wished to ensure that you were not creating further work for yourself unnecessarily, and can assure you that this email address is the correct contact point for your communication.


Regards

Pathfinder

On another note I have found an issue when I group the speakers for music playback (not surround). 

 

I find that once grouped if I use the normal control it will only increase/decrease the volume on the soundbar and not the rears. 

 

I have to use my phone with the app to increase the volume of all three together (using group volume option) ; albeit at differing rates.

 

This may have been detailed before but I am starting to lose the plot now with the numerous issues we have and the length of time this has been going on for. 

Observer

Hi, Guys!

 

Could you please tell me more about your workaround method for surround sound with this setup.

My TV is not Samsung, so I'm not planning to connect it with soundbar via WIFI.

My target is: optical connection and real surround sound. By the "real" I mean that TV is sending multichannel audio to soundbar, and soundbar simply plays it without any changes with decent quality.

 

So I want to clarify a few things:

1. Is it correct that output of my TV should be Bitstream (or Dolby Digital, or something like that) to be able to transmit multichannel audio via optical? And what about input settings of soundbar then?

2. Since K650 supports only DTS 2.0, it looks like I'm not be able to get real surround from DTS source. So how it will be played? Stereo? Duplication of front channels? Or some fake 5.1 from 2.0?

3. Overall sound quality by this method. Is it significally worse than sound that you get via WIFI until the bad firmware?

4. If surround setup is connected via optical, am I able to listen music on soundbar from IPhone or MacBook via bluetooth without re-setting everything again from scratch after listening?

 

Thanks in advance!

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