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Routine not working - Google Wallet / NFC

Members_5yYTZci — Fri, 24 Feb 2023 13:23:38 GMT

Hello all,

Here in the Netherlands we don't have available Samsung Pay (and no bank supports it as far as i know, at least not the ones I use). I noticed that Samsung removed the "Require device unlock for NFC" in their Android implementation Set up screen lock for contactless transactions - Google Wallet Help, so that means that if my phone is stolen, several small purchases can be done even without unlocking the phone. I don't like that.

So to be a bit on the safe side, I have NFC turned off, and I manually turn it on if i want to pay with my phone. This has become quite annoying. So, trying to leverage "Modes and Routines" I created one that goes "If (Google) Wallet is open, then turn on NFC" (and reverses when it closes).

For some reason, i've not managed to make it work. I turn off NFC manually, open the wallet app, and NFC is never turned on (the routine doesn't even seem to start at all). I've tried rebooting the phone, clearing the app data of "Modes and routines" and start again, re-creating the routine, checking permissions, etc.

Any ideas more than welcomed.
Thanks in advance

Re: Routine not working - Google Wallet / NFC

Daz73r — Fri, 24 Feb 2023 15:01:44 GMT

Leave nfc on

Re: Routine not working - Google Wallet / NFC

Members_5yYTZci — Fri, 24 Feb 2023 15:12:44 GMT

But that's exactly what I don't want.
In any case, i just tried leaving it on (maybe a manual hard off was blocking the routine and didn't know), but same. Left it on, routine wouldn't turn it off when i closed the app.

So not a solution.

Re: Routine not working - Google Wallet / NFC

Neo001 — Fri, 24 Feb 2023 17:38:45 GMT

The routine indeed does not seem to work with Google Wallet, and it's not just NFC, but also other settings.

Re: Routine not working - Google Wallet / NFC

NawtyRobot — Sat, 25 Feb 2023 10:36:57 GMT

I have not tried with Google wallet but have it working for hotel app for digital keys

When open Hyatt app nfc turns on and off again when I close it
Let me try with wallet and get back to you

What phone you on?

Re: Routine not working - Google Wallet / NFC

Members_5yYTZci — Sat, 25 Feb 2023 21:54:05 GMT

hey @NawtyRobot , I'm in a Galaxy S23 Ultra... so latest and greatest. Did you have a chance to give it a shot?

Pretty disapointing I would say @Neo001 ... security feature removed (unlock for NFC) and the workaround (routine) doesn't work.

Re: Routine not working - Google Wallet / NFC

Neo001 — Sun, 26 Feb 2023 12:24:24 GMT

Indeed, however, the debit card also allows 100 euros without the pin (and via Google Wallet, its 50 euros). In case either is lost, there is a possibility that someone will use the phone/card to purchase things upto the allowed limit.

I have sent in an error report. Hope you have done it too.

Personally, I use my watch to pay (and keep NFC off on my phone), which requires Wallet to be open when making a payment.

Re: Routine not working - Google Wallet / NFC

Members_5yYTZci — Sun, 26 Feb 2023 13:05:01 GMT

True that. I also sent an error report earlier.

I don't like smartwatches I buy and use only mechanical so paying with it is not an option for now... maybe in a few years.

Re: Routine not working - Google Wallet / NFC

TylerGH — Sat, 04 Mar 2023 16:38:35 GMT

It is, actually. Leave it on. NFC doesn't consume battery.

Re: Routine not working - Google Wallet / NFC

Members_5yYTZci — Wed, 08 Mar 2023 16:13:51 GMT

Ok, I got the following reply (translated from Dutch to English automatically, so it may "Read" weird). I believe what the person is trying to say is that there are some "differences" in implementation of Google Wallet (perhaps too deep into the system) that makes it difficult to correct for now. Although it could as well be that he/she doesn't know what else to answer because doesn't have access to developer teams in Korea or wherever Samsung develops its Android OS flavor.

A good time for Samsung to implement Android's "Require device unlock for NFC" functionality.

Hi! We have received the report in good order and have started working on it. Due to problem analysis, the wallet app and payment app are not working as they are different packages. The Google Pay app is implemented as above, but currently we only work if the package is the same. Therefore, it seems difficult to improve at the moment. Let's think about how to solve it. If you have any questions about this, choose '+' when opening the Samsung Members App - at the bottom right of the App - and then choose 'TextChat', so we can offer you the best service and handle all your questions personally. Yours sincerely,
Samsung Electronics Benelux

Re: Routine not working - Google Wallet / NFC

bixbyyy1 — Sun, 12 Mar 2023 14:38:51 GMT

Hey,

I've come across the same issue as you with my new S23.
I "bypassed" this issue by adding a routine with Button Action (Note that the "if button action" was not natively available in my phone, I had to download GoodLock from the galaxy store and and the mode Routine +, within the GoodLock app).
I do it in 2 routines:
1) When side button is pressed twice : Open Wallet + Turn On NFC + Turn Off wifi
2) When Wifi is Off: Wait 10 seconds (time to to pay with Wallet) + Turn Off NFC + Turn On Wifi

I turn Off the wifi in the first place to get a "If" trigger for my second routine ^^'

Seems manual and "not clean" but it does the job for me, as my 4G is always on

I hope it can help you

edit : NFC turns on by it self even on the lockscreen, so maybe it's not exactly what you wanted either in the first place ^^'

Re: Routine not working - Google Wallet / NFC

Members_5yYTZci — Tue, 14 Mar 2023 14:49:30 GMT

Hey @bixbyyy1 , I'll give it a try, thank you.

Just curious, in your use case, why do you turn off and on the wifi in your routines? I don't mind wifi being on all the time particularly.
It indeed doesn't do 100% of the ask, but if it's locked and the behavior is not "native", it provides some sort of security by obscurity. Maybe a triple side button push would be even "safer".

Thank you.

Re: Routine not working - Google Wallet / NFC

19rainer98 — Wed, 10 May 2023 15:03:02 GMT

Hi @bixbyyy1 !
How did you manage to start a Routine when pressing the power button twice?
Only thing I managed was to open the Google Wallet app and then I'm stuck again.

Re: Routine not working - Google Wallet / NFC

MarkusE — Sat, 01 Jul 2023 10:31:37 GMT

A few days ago it works fine on my new s23 Ultra but now it doesn't anymore. I guess some app is responsible for that

Re: Re: Routine not working - Google Wallet / NFC

DeanySevigny — Wed, 05 Jul 2023 00:59:51 GMT

Exactly the same thing here. It randomly started doing it, then stopped.

Re: Routine not working - Google Wallet / NFC

MarkusE — Sun, 30 Jul 2023 06:56:13 GMT

At the moment it works for me

Re: Routine not working - Google Wallet / NFC

DeanySevigny — Mon, 28 Aug 2023 22:33:18 GMT

I had a reply today saying it's been fixed in the latest update. All apps updated across both Google Play and Samsung stores, but the issue still persists.

Re: Routine not working - Google Wallet / NFC

Neo001 — Mon, 28 Aug 2023 23:21:33 GMT

Got the response that this will be fixed in One UI 6.0.

Re: Routine not working - Google Wallet / NFC

csbb — Mon, 18 Sep 2023 00:05:24 GMT

I have the same problem with my s22. What I did is create a routine with manual button clicking. The 1st action is open nfc , 2 is to open google wallet 3. Wait 3 minutes 4. Tuen off nfc. Not the most graceful solution but it does the job by clicking one button